Good morning Ms Alisyn,

You are still doing well with the blog picks. You are still number ONE!

Looking forward to the show this morning.

chas

Morning Ali & everyone!!

I’ll have to think on the costume but was cracking up yesterday when Cl ayton says he is going as balloon boy & R ick asked how,,,,,, Haaaaaa by hiding in the attic Haaaaaa

I think I’ll go with that one for myself seeing I’m not doing Halloween this year now all my kids are gone

Good morning Alisyn. I haven’t logged into the blog in quite a while, but have still been watching! I’ll have to think on the group costume theme….hmmmm

Is it just me or is the feeling that this flu emergency just a convenient way to grab yet more power?

I’m mean please the stats of just doesn’t justify a national emergency.

chas

That should read the stats of this just doesn’t….

Sorry, I need more tea.

Good Morning, Ms Ali; chas, me; gang.

The increasing child-on-child violence is most alarming.

I kinda agree Chas … I mean we lose more to the seasonal flu each year than this if I am not mistaken. However, 1/3 of the population in my school was out last week. Not all with flu symptoms, but 33% none-the-less

Hey Anita welcome back hope everything is fine

Cap yes it is & very scary

this Leim story is just the hardest to deal with & cant believe the way some systems work I continue to pray for him & his father

wish we could give Liam’s story the time we gave to the balloon b.s.

Good to see you up and around so early this morning cap.

chas

chas, the “emergency” declaration harkens back to one of our themes – is it the national government’s role to wage “war” on sickness? What authority? Commerce Clause? It’s not the secretary of commerce who is in charge of the issue. What is the authority? We do not have a real “national government,” but a federal one, with things not expressly encompassed in Art 1, section 8, being a state, local, or individual issue. Every declaration of emergency or war [on crime, on flu, on drugs, on drunk driving, etc.] causes a shift to the executive and away from individuals and other branches of government. And the power is never fully returned after the “emergency” abates. We are still printing paper money, not authorized by the Constitution, based on the “emergency” of the Civil War.

Good Morning Alisyn, Me,Chas.

More power grab. Yes. I also heard that by doing this he has the power to set up more places to treat the flu, cut the red tape for treatment. That is one thing, still think this is his way also of pushing the health care plan. The see it can work, like with the flu I just proved it. I can hear him saying those words already.

DRAC- -love it! You could freak the O family & all the folks out there who don’t watch Fox news out by dressing up as The First Family!!! Of the guys would have to really get in touch with there feminine side.

Hi ME. i’m doing great. thanks for asking.

I woke up this morning rolled over & said with a huge smile in my face HAPPY BIRTHDAY T !!!! at that same moment it hit me that ….I’m old enough to be sleeping with a 45 year old man Haaaaaaaaaaaaa

Combine that, cap, with this story of the White House basically spitting on the Constitution in trying to shut out Fox News from a sponsored event.

It would seem the Constitution is of little concern to this Administration.

chas

We’ve missed you Anita. Glad to have you return.

chas

Chas, i believe this administration is rewriting the constitution to his own agenda.

I agree that there cannot be content-based limitations on access to the white house. Peter Johnson is not correct that there is a first amendment right to collect information! But once the opportunity for access to the collection of information machinery is granted to one group, there cannot be a content-based discrimination practiced by government.

Good morning, Alisyn and everyone.

I say back to the ’80s for the costumes, but with a twist. Robert Palmer and Addicted to Love, but Alisyn dresses as Robert and the guys dress as girls from the video.

Colleen I’m not touching it cause ………………. LOL I might be called a racist

Lanna great choice

A costume for Ms Aly? Wasn’t there an old movie Sheena of the Jungle, or something like that?

Animal skins…hmmm I better get off that train of thought….

chas

Me, I was thinking that it would be a way to have O watch Fox news & all the rest. That thought never crossed my mind.

universal health care….and GOVERNMENT-PROVIDED universal health care are two different things. morally, i agree that everyone should have access to healthcare but i don’t believe it is the government’s responsibility to provide it. we have charitable organizations, such as Catholic Charities, that should be providing that to those in need, and the government should be providing those organizations with tax credits and/or subsizidies in order to provide that service.

no Chas go with it because it’s group themed & I wouldn’t mind alittle skins

Good Morning Alisyn and everyone,
Group costume…the cast of Batman, Alisyn you can be BatWoman, what do tou think?
Peter Johnson said it the way it is.

when i was thinking costumes, for some reason my mind went to Scooby Doo–shaggy, fred, daphne

well that never crossed mine Haaa you seen where I went LOL feels like a sick twist in Foxworthy’s …….. You might be a ……… Haaaaaaa

Who needs a key? Okay I see a lot of kids getting the parents car. There would have to be some code/pin # on that app.
My friend would be in big trouble, she went out had fun, til she got home & it hit her. Her phone ended up in that bowl in the bathroom!

Anita for “some reason” I’m feelin that could work too

GREAT IDEA’S

Oh chas, see where your mind is!!! You should be hearing from her! Of course I’m w/Me on the other side of your thought!

Ali,

I think the only hope the GOP has is to find a new “moderate” spokesperson (get rid of Steele); become less partisan and work on real healthcare reform – no more window dressing and pandering to the insurance companies. It’s what their constituents really want, but they’ve made it quite obvious who they are really working for. Steele is too abrasive and partisan. I think that the “attack” politics have backfired and a lot of the moderates have defected (Colin Powell, etc.).

Only 20% of the American people now self-identify as Republican. I think at this point they are doing everything wrong. I defected about a year ago and most of my friends and colleagues who were Republican have moved to the left and now consider themselves Independents. No one stands out as a leader in the party, and very few Americans are really as ultra-conservative as the party has become.

Good Morning Alisyn and everyone,
Group costume…the cast of Batman, Alisyn you can be BatWoman, what do you think?
Peter Johnson said it the way it is.

THE ADAMS FAMILY-ALYISIN WOULD MAKE A GREAT MORTICIA-WITH BLACK WIG-AND THERE ARE MANY CHARACTERS FOR THE GUYS-OR THE MUNSTERS-GREAT GUY CHARACTERS.

Along those lines Chas …. Flintstones

That works for me. WILMA!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

chas

Anita, I don’t think the American people will go for Catholic charities providing healthcare for those who can’t afford it. LOL

Hi Ladies and Gents
The problems with both parties is politics, no right or wrong just votes and money
Halloween theme,Adams family

regarding the “APP” to open your car door…..or start your car….all I can think is that its that much more that hackers can get into and do havac

Hoyer obviously never bothered to read the Constitution if he believes that.

I’m betting he actually knows better but will say anything to get this bill shoved down out throat.

chas

I’m not to sure about this app thing it seems way to easy to hack into

Not to mention the whole big brother thing! I will not by a car with onstar for same reason I want in my car & someone, who knows where,? can either let me in or lock me out….. creepy just creepy

Social issues are not the issue. The issue is small government vs. big government. They talk about Ronald Reagan all the time. Maybe they should go watch his first inaugural speech on a loop until they figure out where they went wrong. That speech could have been given today, and it would probably produce the same results for them it did then. I think the problem is that none of them are willing to give away their own power. The Bushes are decent people, but neither of them ever had any use for Reagan’s libertarian view of government, and they are largely to blame for the Republicans’ loss of direction.

As for your outfit today Alisyn, all I can say is…wow.

Hi Anita, hadn’t thought of that, I’m sure they would. Me I’d be one of those pocket dialer’s. Think I will keep the one I have one my keys works just fine.

I don’t believe people should be required to buy insurance, but if they don’t they can be refused care. There’s no reason that they can’t afford it because of the subsidies and credits that will be available to make it affordable.

WARNING!!! Reading comments made by the poster known as ‘Liz’ will result in severe brain shrinkage

“The opinions expressed by this blogger are for amusement purposes only. They contain no factual information and in no way represent the majority of thinking Americans”!

I concur AJ. Good to see you.

chas

Hey Hey AJ!

Get use to it … your heros in the Administration are going to require it

I like the Flintstones & Adams family so far. Kiss crossed my mind also (Gene Simmons & family), chas you ought to like this one.

I agree AJ – we need to lean more Libertarian. I think they have the right mixture of conservative and liberal views. However, we would have to completely scrap our current system completely. Get OUT the lobbyists. Our gov’t. should NOT be run by corporations. Th. Jefferson warned about that (ask chas)!

WARNING!!! Reading comments made by the poster known as ‘ME’ will result in severe brain shrinkage

“The opinions expressed by this blogger are for amusement purposes only. They contain no factual information and in no way represent the majority of thinking Americans”!

blog friends…gotta get ready for church, but here is a thought/question–why do people keep likening “the requirement to buy health insurance” with the state-mandates to buy car insurance? the requirement to buy car insurance is for LIABILITY insurance only–it is not to protect the insured but to protect those the insured might hit or kill with his vehicle. if you have state-required liability insurance on your car, it does NOT cover you (the driver) if you are killed in an accident and does not cover your vehicle–but it will cover the rest of your passengers and the other vehicle(s). there is no comparison to govt-mandated health insurance and govt-mandated car insurance.

enjoy the rest of the day folks. am heading to church.

Enjoy Anita, nice to see you bcak again.

chas

Liz that is the very first thing you posted here that was CORRECT ya got to admit its funny too

Good morning everyone. That is an excellent explanation, Anita. It is good to see you again.

I to have pondered that question Anita,not to mention that driving a car is a personal choice, breathing is not.

Maybe the answer is to make everyone register with a political party. If you are a registered Democrat, the public option is available to you. If you are a registered Republican, you will be required to pay the high premiums needed to make the insurance company CEO’s comfortable while they deny you the care you need. Or you don’t have to buy insurance at all, in which case you could be denied care.

Let’s get more partisan and see if that works!

And…. you can buy car insurance across state line

Good morning all you fellow americans except one, I attened a huge TEA party yesterday. The message I got was not more liberal social projects but more conservative values. Some want the GOP to become liberal. They will lose big time if they follow that path. The NY race is an example of this.

Oh brother

So you admit that you cause brain shrinkage ME? I think it was something you ate!

Good Mornin Bruce & Ms K (thats you liz )

I have an idea, lets stop the Government from doing things it is not empowered to undertake.

chas

Hi Meleen

You know, the money we save after pulling out of the middle east next year would totally fund healthcare reform – and more!

Absolutely chas – including war!!! (after all that’s the Libertarian view – and you are Libertarian, are you not?)

But thats the easy stuff Chas

Meleen

chas, government never surrenders powers it has assumed unto itself, even in the name of “emergency.” We are still printing paper money, not authorized under the Constitution, on the ward-debt “emergency” found during the Civil War.

Besides defeating Communism, Socialism, Fascism and Slavery, war never solved anything

I understand that cap. More than that, every power the Federal Government assumes comes at a cost of either State power or individual freedom.

chas

Ats right Marine,what a terrible lot we are

… and at the cost of intellectual integrity about what the Republic was to be all about, chas.

Eileen…. that was to funny…lol

Question/Topic for NEWT :

Mr. Speaker, in the last few weeks several notables in the Republican Party, including Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, and yourself, have voiced the opinion that the Party needs to become more “inclusive”.

Some might point out that there is already an inclusive coalition of conservative and moderate Americans comprised of Republicans, Libertarians, Independents, and other parties in the form of the Tea Party Patriots.

Rather than blaming this group for interfering in NY-23, why are you not embracing their call for a return to the principles of Ronald Reagan?

Comment by marine1967
October 25th, 2009 at 7:10 am

Besides defeating Communism, Socialism, Fascism and Slavery, war never solved anything

Some people don’t seem to understand that. There is always a time when enough is enough & you have to take action.

Hi Sal

Sal

…and that’s an obviously ignored problem with the education of our young in this Country.

chas

Morning Bruce.

Ali,

Are you aware that Newt is no longer the speaker? He has not been the speaker since you were in college hon. We don’t call Bush or Clinton President anymore, do we?

Good Morning Alisyn and to everyone on the blog this morning.

Who would want to vote for a liberal conservative in New York?

Colleen, name one war that we were involved in that defeated any of those things!!! LMAO!

Sorry, all the wars we’ve been involved in since World War II accomplished nothing substantial, if anything at all.

As a matter of fact it is protocol to address a former official by his title. And it is and has been done for as long as I can remember.

chas

Now your talking Chas,there’s something lacking in education, for starters respect,God and Country

Nothing substantial? give me a break, freedom comes to mind.

Barbara – Ronnie would be rolling over in his grave if he could see the party today. His son is a frequent guest on MSNBC shows and you should listen to what he has to say. His dad in no way would endorse the Republicans today!

WOOHOO-low cut high, high cut low, nice and red…….great dress-my morning started off right-thanks!

Halloween costume? How bout “Gone With the Wind” You can be Scarlett, and the other two can fight over Rhett and Ashely? Or Charlies’ Angels? I would love to see your support crew in female action garb.

Geeezzz…you just can’t fix stupid.

Mary,

I think the South Korean’s would disagree. I’m sure they think something substantial was accomplished.

chas

It’s called respect Liz, remember

Well chas, that is confusing! If Nancy Pelosi gave up her position to someone else, would we still call her Speaker if she’s still in the House?

In the words of John Kerry huh Marine? I was thinking the same thing.

It won’t be underfunded Mr. Speaker – it will be funded fine! That’s why they are working so hard right now! I can’t stand it when they try to guess what the final bill will look like.

As for addressing Newt as “Mr. Speaker,” that is entirely appropriate. And, uh…, actually we do address Carter, Clinton, Bush x 2 as “Mr. President,” and it is appropriate and standard to address former government people by the highest rank they had attained. Bolton is called “Ambassador,” retired senators are addressed as Senator, etc. That is a well-established protocol standard.

The one address we forget is how to address tha Dalai Lama; if you know him well, you may merely say “Hello, Dali!”

Bruce, since when do you respect anyone? I’ve seen you call “President Obama” many different names, and none of them show any respect. LMAO

LMAO Cap!!!

Newt’s not the only one guessing

Marine1967~~~~

Geeezzz…you just can’t fix stupid.
Bout fell out of the chair!

Bruce … you may have to define that …

Respect:
to hold in esteem or honor: I cannot respect a cheat; to show regard or consideration for: to respect someone’s rights.

We just listened to Newt G. and what a run around that was! If you are not in the repulican good ole boys column..you are an “outsider”..excuse me I think Mr. G. if an outsider, he neglected to say the rep. candidate is in support of acorn funding and other liberal forums to many to mention, how is that for conservative ideas?The repulican party is going to lose again if they continue down this elite road! This same attitude is why the repulican party lost the last election. To call Sarah Palin an “outsider” well good for her, WE ARE A PARTY OF THE OUTSIDERS! Will not vote repulican unless they get their act together, and so far we have not seen this happening. Hoorah for Sarah! Go get them girl..you have the true conservative party behind you!

Sincerely,
Johnna and Don Ekleberry
IOWA

Newt has a point,
the democrat in that race probably will win….because the Republican vote will be split.

Terms of endearment LOL

Cap!!!

You have to earn respect, it’s not given you

Uh, I meant “Hello, Dalai!”

In Honor of OU’s WIN YESTERDAY

Comment by AJ
October 25th, 2009 at 6:47 am

AJ – you are absolutely right that Republicans for the last decade love to cite Reagan but have no idea what he stood for!

We need to get back to minimized central/Federal government and return many of the powers to the individual States.

All the Feds do now is pass entitlement laws that they do not fund. They pass off much of the funding to States who then go broke trying to comply with the laws the Feds make them have but don’t give them money to enact. That’s tyranny by the Federal Government.

States should be able to make their own laws (own healthcare, tort reform laws, welfare laws, pension plans in lieu of social security, run their own educational systems like it used to be, etc.).

The country would be a much better place.

BLOG RULES YAY!!!!!!

I think the other guys are getting their picks from here also.

chas

Really John? Well, I don’t have much respect for Newt (and all his shenanigans) – so what should I call him? Mr. “New-tered”? LOL

I bet they are !!! they,, they know,, they know this blog in the chit baby

What fun to see Janice’s baby!

in = is …..friggin typo’s LOL

Colleen – you are avoiding my question! Answer it – if you can! I know you can’t, but try OK?

Geeze, if I stare off into the distance, will Ms Ali pick me up???/!

I’m staaaaring!!!!

Alisyn you will go 4 & 0 today,
Pittsburgh over Minnesotta
Cincinnati over Chicago
New Orleans over Miami
New York Jets over Oakland
Good Luck Buddy.

Why is ok for Newt to support Dede but Sarah Palin cannot support Doug Hoffman. Does Newt now live in upper New York? He seemed so concerned with the locals only making the decision – why did he jump in. He doesn’t get it and that makes me sad. Had high hopes for him! Wish you would have asked him that.
Love your show!

Pelosi? Liz

I don’t know Sal. The Pitts game is iffy.

chas

OK chas – I’ll give you MASH! Other than that, we’ve pretty blown all our “wars”! And the ones we started were “un-American” as far as I’m concerned. Did we earn more respect in the world with the war in Iraq – or less? You know the answer!

awwwwww so happy for Janice! They looks so happy & healthy God Bless

Cap, do you agree with me about the wars?

I hear you John…lol

Brenda – it will be the FIRST time a Democrat will take that race! Can’t wait to see that happen!!!

The opinion of Countries that have walked backward from individual freedoms in favor of large and aggressive governments is of little concern to me.

chas

I know Chas…I can trash talk right now… just in case we lose…lol

Anita in Va said:

why do people keep likening “the requirement to buy health insurance” with the state-mandates to buy car insurance? the requirement to buy car insurance is for LIABILITY insurance only–it is not to protect the insured but to protect those the insured might hit or kill with his vehicle. if you have state-required liability insurance on your car, it does NOT cover you (the driver) if you are killed in an accident and does not cover your vehicle–but it will cover the rest of your passengers and the other vehicle(s). there is no comparison to govt-mandated health insurance and govt-mandated car insurance.

I usually try to explain this by saying that if auto insurance were the same as health insurance, the only people that would need to be covered would be smokers and homicidal maniacs. In other words, only those people who were a danger to someone else’s health would require health insurance.

To carry that further, someone with H1N1 flu would need health insurance not to cover their own health but to cover the risk they are as a carrier who might give the flu to other people.

Comment by Me
October 24th, 2009 at 8:42 am
OK here’s mine

Minn —–cause of Bret & Peterson (Sooner) are playin well together

Cincy —–cause of where I live

New Orleans —–oh when the saints go,,,,sing along,,,

Oakland ——Cause JETS SUCK!!!!

T is working so ?

Minn all the way guy’s!
Congrat’s Me ~~In Honor of OU’s WIN YESTERDAY

I’ll post the picks after the show and I get verification.

chas

Thanks Chas

I love the way it’s being done this season, keeps us all involved, like it used to be

T & Me
In Madison

I don’t think Mr. Heene should go to jail, but he should have to pay restitution for being a “media clown”.

Pssssst a little Fabreeze to clean up the air, see yewns later

Hey chas, are you talking about Europe? They had the greatest disdain for Bush – more than any middle east country. I know – I was there!

Everyone always talks about how far our children are behind every other country….FAIR & BALANCED from a teacher
Few ever mention that the USA is one of the very few countries in the world that provides a public education for ALL children. Most nations only educate the brightest, wealthiest or children of the most politically connected. Not only do we educate our American children we must educate the children of illegal immigrants. Here in Texas, we are made to focus on bringing these children up to the level of our American children. This must begin with the most basic….English. I spend many hours of my days teaching English to these children (while the American children “study” on their own) ….their mothers pick them up in new Lexus, they go home speak Spanish, come back the next day and I start over a square one all the while just giving the American children just enough to pass the TAKS test (our measurment in TX). Realize I am judged on the results of TAKS for all children, not just English speaking children!
The Supreme Court ruling of 1982 should be revisited to put our American on somewhat equal footing with the rest of the world! What’s a mere teacher to do?????

Love Suzanne Somers – she’s a trooper!

I was hurt that you spent so much time with the children you called to come out and and show their costumes and totally ignored the three children to your left , behind the lady doing the describing of the costumes. You never introduced them and the young lady in costume was sitting in your green room when the camera was down there earlier in the morning. : -(

Nancy, that’s a big problem. Do you have any good private schools down there?

Comment by brenda
October 25th, 2009 at 7:42 am

Spot on, Brenda.

On top of that, from everything I have read, Newt was being at best “disingenuous” (ahem) when he said Scozzafava had pledged not to raise taxes. She was specifically asked if she would support taxes in conjunction with the healthcare bill and her response was “what kind of taxes?” NOT absolutely not.

I am not a stickler on one issue of disagreement with a candidate; however, when that candidate supports card check, abortion, and other planks of the Democratic Party’s platform AND is more liberal than the Democratic candidate running in a race, then I don’t think she is an appropriate nominee for the Republicans.

The Gallup annual poll gaging party self-identification came out on June 15th before the 2nd round of tea parties, the town hall meetings, and the 9/12 March on Washington. Those who call themselves Conservative was up to 40% and there were 30% self-identifying as Moderates. Only 21% of the nation self-identifies as Liberal. It is insane that we are allowing 21% of the people in this country to have all the power over the rest of us and to lead us down their road to socialism.

It is imperative that conservative thinking candidates are elected to Congress, Governorships, and State legislatures in 2010 as these are the people that will be deciding the redistricting based on the 2010 census. If liberals are still running the show, Congressional districts will be set for liberals to win.

As a conservative republican in the GOP dominated NY 23 I am offended by the hachett job being done on Republican Hoffman by the likes of Gingrich and the local (republican ) daily paper.

As much as I like and supported Dede for the NYS Assembly I was stunned when the nine county GOP chairmen picked her without a primary (over Hoffman) as the candidate. Hoffman reflects the GOP national platform and she is a classic RINO. She is a social liberal who threatened to jump to the Democratic Party in last year’s election if not nominated by the GOP; and her husband is the regional trade union leader

Hoffman is being attacked for swearing off ALL earmarks.

The future of the GOP hangs in the balance

For Halloween, Aly should go as a cupcake. It’s all in the frosting. Hello, Cupcake!

As it is in Illinois Nancy

Interesting; I have tried to post twice opposing war, and they disappear. Let’s see if this opposite view gets posted: “DUH, I LOVE WAR AND WE SHOULD KILL EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WHO DISAGREES WITH US!”

If that gets posted, it will say more than I want to verbalize! And if I did verbailize it, it would not get posted here.

Yep, that’s what I thought.

WTH? Cap

Good Morning Everyone!!

Ali,

You and the guys should be the X-Men! You all would make great Super Heroes!!

Yep, that’s what I thought. If we are true in our concerns that Fox should not be limited in white house access due to its content, the blog here should not be censoring contrary views either.

I’m out of here. You all have a good week.

On the superhero theme, how about if you go as the “Fantastic Four”. That works out right for the gender breakdown.

Excellent suggestion Ms Barbara.

chas

Good Morning MetalGirl.

Cap, you are NOT being censored!

Everyone loses comments here and there.

WordPress is just screwy like that.

If you go as superheroes, Aly would have to be Wonder Woman….

Cap, I think it has to do with the use of the word “h*te”. I think that word may be filtered.

Cap

Hi MetalGirl1, cold out your way yet? LOL

You may be on to something there Ms Barbara.

I just try to post this “I would h ate to think that” And it didn’t post. First one I lost today.

chas

Ugh, Dr. Siegel. All the sugar in fruit juices that parents feed to their kids and in Kool-Aid, Hawaiian Punch, and other sweet drinks and you want to limit sugar in soda.

Why not educate parents that they can make kool-aid by the barrel at home and put in as much or little sugar as they want? Why not take parental responsibility like parents USED TO and tell your child no? Why not tell yourself no?

I’ve got news for these “nanny staters”. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, etc., existed long before there was a supposed weight problem in this country. Triple mocha choco lattes did not. The problem is inactivity for everyone and not too much sugar. Get a grip!

Chas, I tried to strike through Cap’s post and change “love” to “h ate” and that is the only one that hasn’t gone through for me today either. That’s why I suggested it might be a filter on the word.

Colleen,

YES!! LOL! It’s even snowed a couple times so far! YUK! It all melted as soon as it hit the ground, but still! I think it’s gonna be a NASTY one up here this season!

Comment by IndependentVoter
October 25th, 2009 at 8:24 am
If you go as superheroes, Aly would have to be Wonder Woman
———————————————–
I agree.

For some reason it doesn’t like you to use the names of her co-host either….lol

chas

Here is ABC news view of the fight between white house & Fox http://bit.ly/1H7ypm

Sal,

Is that Wonder Woman or Wonderful Woman?

chas

OK, thanks Cap! I know you oppose war. So do I – it never accomplishes much, if anything, and we lose lives. I think (and so does my cousin who was stationed in Afghanistan) that drones can do the job there. The Pakistani army has stepped up now to get rid of Al Qaeda. We just don’t need to be there!

And yes, the wordpress will not print anything with the word h-a-t-e in it. Always space it out.

This is a good poll to use – it averages them all…

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

They both sound good…lol

OMG I LOVE WHEN HE DOES THE SPOCK IMPRESSION!!!!! LMAO!!! Too Funny!!!

WHAT ABOUT MY JIB JAB THOSE COSTUMES!!!!!!!

Ally!!
Costume idea……hooters girls…ALL of you!! LOL…….give a chance for you to give what us guy viewers like about you physically….and well the guys as hooters girls would be hilarious!!

Alisyn,
I think you should go as Nancy Pelosi and the boys can take their pick from our nations finest. Maybe Barney Frank and Harry Reid.

AND…..I think the big story over a period of time is the fact that Obama is FULL of himself…I wouldn’t be surprised to see a scandal like Clinton’s somewhere along the way….He truly thinks he is invincible…ALREADY!!

Hey Guys!!
My husband and I think you should dress up as either KISS or the characters from The Wizard of OZ.

My Jib Jad has song & dance it’s the Monster Mash

Halloween suggestions for 4….. Fruit of the Loom, Four seasons (not the band), or the flinstones…… good luck

You should all be the Fruit Of The Loom Gang!!!! Your choice of fruit.

OMG Jim thanks for the visual of the guys in those shorts ,,,rotf

Hey guys, I think you should dress up as the Super Heroes cause you are mine. Thank for what you do in reporting the truth. Aly could be Super Girl or Wonder Woman, guys you could be Superman and Batman.

Here are the crews picks for week #7. Results and Standings should be posted before the night is over since the last games end around 7pm.

Alisyn
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
New Orleans
NY Jets

C layton
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Miami
NY Jets

D ave
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
New Orleans
NY Jets

R ick
Minnesota
Cincinnati
New Orleans
NY Jets

chas

Sue & Sharon you know its a great idea if you both hit it at once!!

I think Newt is going to tell you that you’re “full of it” that the GOP is divided. That’s the Media trying find another news story.
BTW- this should make Barack feel better that even Fox acts like a news organization most of the time. Even within their own party.

Thanks everyone for the company and comments. Thanks to all who voted for the picks in this weeks games. Have a great week.

Good luck with your picks this week Ms Alisyn.

chas

OK wait…hold the pesses!! I have it!! COSTUMES…..Bo—–Luke—–and Daisy DUKE!!!! perfect!!!

What was the topic? Oh yeah, Newt Gingrich. Sometimes I agree and other times I don’t. But, what he thinks is really irrelevant because what happens in Washington has nothing to do with real life as is in more evidence than ever right now. Congress has the lowest rating ever in recent decades and still it plows ahead on it’s mission to NOT DO THE PEOPLE’S bidding. Elections have consequences and so the actions of an elitist congress. We shall see…the only good prediction of who is right and who is wrong are the post-election results.

OMG…I didn’t have the visual FULLY until you said that!! It’s going to take a few minutes to wash that one out!! lol Puppy dogs…..sunsets….Ali in daisy dukes…..ok i think it’s gone!! lol

TAKE 2

if U remember I took B uffalo last week & you guys said I’m n uts but I won that the Jet’s
“st- ink”

where are they playin & what’s the temp? who the heck recruited a GB to play in the north if he cant handle the cold??HUH??? Good luck to ya J ets fan’s!

R ick is with me on the V ikings C lay tooon where did you come up with M iami? was it the cheerleaders that were on with k ilmeade the other day Haaaa

Well, thank God in Heaven somebody showed up to tell us the topic….rotf

ali-how about hollowean disguise as the somnolent NW airlines Minneapolis crew?

Thanks Chas & All playin along I’ll see you tonight for standings!!

Are you ready for some Foot Ball !!!!???!!! Are ya ready to party!!??!!! I got beer on ice ………& your turn sing along,,,,,

What is “rotf”?

Rolling On The Floor

Sometimes ROTFL Rolling On The Floor Laughing

And there is ROTFLMAO. I’ll let you figure that one out….lol

chas

rolling on the floor carolyn

Oh, phew! I thought it was something nasty. I can handle sarcastic! I got here late and by the time I scrolled down I forgot the topic!

I am looking for the cupcake cookbook and cannot remember the name from Oct. 25 halloween cupcakes….thanks

Lions are not playing today…Whew that way they cannot lose! Yay!

Dog: I am looking for a place for the B.C.. LOL Maybe something closer to Detroit Metro…what do you think?

Yikes!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Devastating-numbers-in-new-Gallup-survey-65380327.html

Exceptional article about the government-sanctioned Ponzi scheme we call Social Security. http://tinyurl.com/yhy75w5

Gingrich is a politician and would sell his soul to not go to hell. He is just another compromizing Republican that will get sucked into the Obama type government. I would rather fight and die for something than compomize myself int false security. He certainly would have not fought in the revolutionary or civil wars. He would be too busy trying to cover his butt!!

Fans scrambled to see 3-D movies such as “Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs” in theaters this year and new 3-D televisions could soon have home viewers feeling as if they’re surrounded by a spaghetti hurricane on their couches.

Next year major electronics manufacturers Sony Corp. and Panasonic Corp. plan to introduce 3-D-capable high-definition televisions for the mass market. You’ll still need to wear special glasses, though.

Movie studios hope 3-D can help lift the sagging home video market the same way it has pushed up box office results.

The initial price of such sets is expected to be high — perhaps 20 percent more than normal sets of the same size. But costs should come down in the coming years.

AW STERLING: LET’S PUT IT UP HERE IN LONG HAND!

Devastating drop in job approval numbers for Obama in new Gallup survey
By: Mark Tapscott
Editorial Page Editor
10/21/09 10:45 PM EDT

“…Gallup also noted that Obama’s average job approval rating has plummeted to among the worst since the polling organization began measuring presidential popularity and job approval…”

My idea for Halloween….O Bama, Nancy Pelosi (Really Scary! A Billboard here said if you think you’ve got it bad trying being Nancy Pelosi’s husband!) and Biden

OMG where is every one!!! what ball games we got today!!!

Today picks
Pittsburgh over Minnesota…won
Cincinnati over Chicago…won
New Orleans over Miami…won
New York Jets over Oakland…won
4-0 today
week 1..2-2
week 2..1-3
week 3..3-1
week 4..4-0
week 5..3-1
week 6..3-1
week 7..4-0
20-8 for the year.

I hear you Eileen…some good games today.

Here are the results from today’s games.

Alisyn: 4 – 0
C layton: 3 – 1
D ave: 4 – 0
R ick: 3 – 1

Which makes the standings:

1. Alisyn: 21 – 7
2. D ave: 18 – 10
3. R ick: 17 – 11
4. C layton 14 – 14

chas

The death of Jeffry Picower, accused of profiting more than $7 billion from the investment schemes of his longtime friend Bernard Madoff, will make it more difficult for suing investors to recoup their money, attorneys said.

Picower’s wife, Barbara, on Sunday discovered the 67-year-old’s body at the bottom of the pool at their oceanside mansion and pulled him from the water with help from a housekeeper, authorities said. He was pronounced dead at Good Samaritan Medical Center at about 1:30 p.m. Palm Beach police are investigating the death as a drowning, but have not ruled out anything on the cause of death.

Picower had been accused by jilted investors of being the biggest beneficiary of Madoff’s schemes. In a lawsuit to recover Madoff’s assets, trustee Irving Picard demanded Picower return more than $7 billion in bogus profits. In an e-mailed statement Sunday, Picard said only that “litigation will continue.”

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I’m trying to post a story about an American doctor who went bankrupt because he got sick, but wordpress won’t let me. I’m not sure what the offending word is – but it was a very sad story. This guy had everything – and lost it all because of our wonderful healthcare system.

I saw it on a Canadian station – and you won’t see in here I’m sure. The Canadians say their healthcare system is not perfect, but at least they can sleep at night knowing that this will never happen to them. The US is the only country in the developed world where you are forced to go bankrupt if you get a disease. It’s really inexcusable.

Even a “cadillac” plan didn’t work for this poor doctor. He ended up living out of his car after his insurance dropped him. We have to stop letting corporations run this country via the GOP.

Sterling, I’m sure that you are talented enough to find a job in another industry, but who knows – maybe after reform you will still have your job. Go with your conscience – and do what’s right.

I have a question for you people who follow Beck – I’ve watched him and I can’t really figure out exactly what his conspiracy theories are all about – and I know others who can’t either. Would it help to read his books, and if so, which one would you suggest? Do his books explain these conspiracies? Is that why you understand them? I would appreciate an honest, well-thought out answer. Thanks.

Oh, one more thing on the doctor story – did you know that these insurance companies give bonuses to employees who find ways to drop coverage on sick people? It’s true – and disgusting!!!

Fantastic!!

Comment by Liz
October 26th, 2009 at 4:45 am

I have a question for you people who follow Beck – I’ve watched him and I can’t really figure out exactly what his conspiracy theories are all about
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maybe because you are not up on the constitution and history you don’t get BEck. andd you are against him and don’t want to figure him out. you are so anti beck you don;t even get that he is just like ron paul who you said you liked just last week.

This Healthcare plan is nothing more then a Government takeover,
in more ways then we might think, to tell you the truth,they could care less about healthcare,
its all about Control people, thats what this is all about people,
and these attacks on Fox News is a Distraction from healthcare,
so they can push it through….but remember this…. all these politicians who vote yes on this Government takeover will be looking for a job in 2010,
Speak up America and dont stop until we get our country back on the right track.

Glenn gave more air time to Ron Paul than anyone in the media during last year’s campaign.

http://www.talkstreamlive.com/listen.aspx?s=2038

Great Liz…..even more c-r-a-p that you cannot support…..oh, poor liz……wordpress won’t let her prove her point! Sob! Sob! Did your dog eat your homework, too? Hoot! Hoot!

How old are you really, Liz? I ‘m beginning to believe that you may have worked in G-e-r-m-a-n-y back in the late 1930s?????

Are you working out of Argentina these days, too????

Have you ever seen the film…..The Boys From Brazil? …or Marathon Man?????

What was your name before you changed it? Hoot! Hoot!

Health Care Reform
57% Say Health Care Plan Will Increase Costs, 53% Say It Will Reduce Quality of Care, 45% Favor Passage
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If the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats passes, 57% of voters nationwide believe it will raise the cost of health care, and 53% believe the quality of care will get worse. That’s part of the reason that just 45% support the plan. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 51% are opposed to it.

Things are so bad in California that some economic experts are releasing study findings call for corporate and sales taxes be removed and be replaced with a business tax on profits and that income tax should be reduced. Unfortunately, the assembly won’t listen to the studies on the topic

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33% Say Stimulus Helped Economy, 31% Say It Hurt
Monday, October 26, 2009

Questions linger about the effectiveness of the $787-billion economic stimulus plan proposed by President Obama and passed by Congress in February.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds voters almost evenly divided in their views of the plan: 33% say it has helped the economy, while 31% think it has hurt. Twenty-nine percent (29%) believe the plan has had no economic impact.

The stimulus package has received mixed reviews from the beginning and these numbers reflect a modest fallback from a month ago. Last month, 36% said the stimulus was good for the economy, and 28% said it was bad.

Sam: sometimes there are words that WordPress doesn’t like and sometimes it is because someone posted at the same time as you did. Look for words that might be negative like h-a-t-e or g-u-n or of course “blue” words

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Liz, I’m not going to waste my time trying to convince you that Beck is worth listening to. I think the reason you can’t get anything out of Beck’s program is the fact that you can’t get what you’re LOOKING for. Probably, the only time you listen to him is when you are determined to find something wrong. THAT is your problem. When the “rubber hits the road” it is hard to find anything that disproves his contentions. That must really be annoying to you. He was right about Acorn. He was right about Obumma’s commie czar. He’s right about the ERA. Although I haven’t been able to listen to him lately, I am confident he’s right about what he is saying now. So, get over it, Dearie.

I’ve been watching and listening to Glenn for years and I’ve never known of him to traffic in “conspiracy theories.” He offers facts plain and simple. If his assertions about this administation weren’t true then the White House would speak up and set the record straight. Instead, they do the most idiotic thing imaginable and declare war on a news organization in a blatant attempt to violate the 1st amendment. If Glenn was as dumb and incorrect as certain jealous people like to claim and others repeatedly parrot on this blog then there would be absolutely no reason whatsoever for the TOTUS to be so utterly terrified of him.

http://www.talkstreamlive.com/listen.aspx?s=4002

Just Another Blogger:
Do you mean NEA? National Endowment For The Arts? I think you are talking about how they are producing art work for posters that support Ohmesianicone. And they got gobs of stimulus money for their “errand”.

Yes, Carolyn. I meant NEA. The ERA is the Equal Rights Amendment. Beck didn’t talk about that. At least not when I listened to him. Thanks for the correction. Welcome back, Roy. Now that WhitePowerforfox is gone, maybe we can get rid of our Obama groupie.

I thought you were talking about the NEA. I don’t think Roy is coming back. Sorry to say.

Blogger – you are totally incapable of giving me an answer – and so is Dog! I pity you two – such ineffective communicators – like Beck! I was hoping one of you could shed some light on his ramblings, but since you can’t I have to assume I was right about him. He’s just all about “rambling” and nothing more!

The White House is just exercising it’s right to free speech – not trying to shut up Beck – just expose him for what he is!

freckles – Beck knows nothing about the constitution – he just thinks he does. He’s proven WRONG every day on his constitutional ramblings!

The Public Option is alive and well – and after 2010 we can make it permanent! Yay!

We don’t know the full results of the stimulus yet and we won’t know for a few more months – so don’t start spreading misinformation “yet”! LOL

Beck talks with a lot of “innuendo” – and that’s why he’s so hard to understand. I was wondering if his books are equally as bad. Anyone else want to tackle that question? I wish someone would because I’m planning a class discussion about one of his shows and I’d like someone to recommend one and explain it the way you understand it.

Thanks in advance (but I won’t hold my breath). I’m serious! Sterling? You?

Lizzie,
Beck is very easy to understand unless one has a thick skull…. Read his book Common Sense….
On the NY Times best seller list…… you may learn something.

Merle:

Beck is talking about who wants the public option: it is all the under 30 somethings who think it will be “free insurance” and public employees and union members who will be exempt from having to take it.

The health plan will not come into effect until 2013. But we get to start paying for it next year. Yay.

Every public plan in the US has caused services to be rationed. Massassachusetts, Tennessee for example

You guys can’t answer her because you won’t give her what she wants, her own words. It’s not that you are incapable of answering her, she’s incapable of grasping anything you say as truth. Because it doesn’t register in her little la la land.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you told her the common symbol for liquid nitrogen was LN2 she would call you an idiot that is just too stupid to understand anything.

Anyone who says they believe in Ron Paul and still supports nationalized health care is too confused to get concerned with or bother with for that matter.

chas

If a state opts out of the public health care option, does that mean that all the freeloaders will have to move?

Anyone who says they believe in Ron Paul and what he stands for, and also says that they support nationalized health care is a big fat liar.

Don’t drag me into your setup. You don’t want a truthful answer from anyone. You’ve already made up your mind about Beck, and you just want to taunt folks who fall for your trap. You’ve done it too many times here.

If you were sincere, you would have posted reasonable questions to Dog’s comment. It’s perfectly fine if you disagree with his viewpoint, but you can’t disagree with any effectiveness, so you attempt to marginalize him and Blogger. Dog provided you with an articulate, reasonable, and insightful response to your question, and you resorted to calling him an ineffective communicator, and anyone reading his response can obviously ascertain that he is absolutely a very effective communicator. What is your gig, anyway, of accusing folks of being ineffective communicators? You’ve accused me more than once of that, as well. You’re just wishing it was true. Better find a new line.

Don’t anyone fall for her trap. Let her do her own research.

I know the results of the stimulus: Unemployment at 11-12% and national debt $10 trillion.

Hey gang…the president has made his priorities clear:

He is attending his 27th democrat party fund raiser tonight

Clinton only went to 5 and Bush only to 6 in the same time frame of their presidencies.

Good to know we know where Obama is when the 3:00 am phone call comes; on Air Force One sleeping off his “ego drunk” after yet another evening pimping himself out for money.

Carolynro – you remind me of Ann Coulter! Is your voice like hers? Most guys think she’s really a man – and they understand why she doesn’t attract guys. They say “who would want to listen to that all day?” LOL

Sterling, it was a fair question and he did NOT answer it! You don’t answer questions either. I wish I could find someone here who could spell out exactly what Beck is about and what his goal is. I’ve never heard him say anything positive about anything – like Ann Coulter. Is he a mouthpiece for the GOP, or does he lean Libertarian, like you? You are not a true Libertarian or you wouldn’t be defending the wars or Cheney!

I told you Sterling that if Ron Paul could run as an independent and clean up Washington – which would include bringing “supercapitalism” under control (which I know you don’t understand), then I would vote for him. He would need to make some drastic changes, and I don’t think it’s possible without a “real” grassroots movement.

Chuckie, you don’t have to explain my motives – you can’t even explain your own! LMAO!

You all know I want your “point of view” about Beck because I’m studying your points of view! I’ve told you that so many times, but I know you are older people and your short term memories are not that good. TRY to remember what my agenda is! Help me out!

Carolynro – Obama just wants to make sure the Republicans get defeated “soundly” in the next election. The GOP won’t be able to outspend him, will they? I hope not! The Democratic candidates will get plenty of support for sure!

Of course I would like to see Ron Paul raise that kind of money, but it’s just not possible!

Carolynro – I would take rationing over getting cut off completely by the insurance companies, wouldn’t you?

Anyway, the public option will be funded properly and there won’t be any problems – just like we take care of the military!

Your agenda is to boost your own already inflated ego.

Trust me, I’ve been around this block many more times than you have kid. You really aren’t as impressive as you think you are, except in your own mind. More destructive than impressive.

If I’m wrong, then explain how you can claim to support Ron Paul and nationalized health care, which are diametrically opposed to each other, and make a logical argument for the opposing philosophies.

chas

Because under Libertarianism, it would be done right. Insurance companies would not be calling the s h o t s because anti-trust laws would be enforced. That would make them competitive. Do you understand supercapitalism in a world economy? If not, read up on it and then we can talk.

My reading list does not include partisan politics, like Glenn Beck or any mouthpieces for the GOP. The GOP doesn’t know how to run anything, so they let the corporations run things and bend laws to let them. Corporations are not people, so I don’t think they should be making decisions, do you?

s h o t s – another word that wordpress doesn’t like! lol

Comment by Liz
October 26th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

Carolynro – I would take rationing over getting cut off completely by the insurance companies, wouldn’t you?

Your comment makes no sense. Big surprise there. Rationing by the government or being cut off by your insurance company both equal no care or inadequate care. What, it’s okay with you if the government is the one who prolongs the illness or causes the death?

You need to do your due diligence, and the first thing on your list needs to be educating yourself on the tenets of Libertarianism. Libertarians believe in very small, limited government. They would never endorse a nationalized health care plan. There would be no doing it right, because they would never ever in a million years even consider such an undertaking.

Try to answer with a logical reply, if you can.

Good night.

Ron Paul can’t raise enough money so fascism is the answer, huh?
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Glenn Beck is a staunch libertarian who despises both the GOP and corporate power and greed! If you actually took the time to really learn anything about him instead of just parroting the foul lies you’re fed by PMSDNC and the left-wing extremist blogs then you’d know that!

Then again, you’re a foul liar yourself so the truth doesn’t matter to you!

Liz,

I enjoy your comments.

Are you working on your Masters?

Kevin, I’m sure she is since she clearly has a BS in BS!

OK DogOnCrack, I’ll engage,

And you?

Engage?

It’s obvious that you’re trying to get a date with the troll but I didn’t think you were going that far!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

DogOnCrack

Your response states more than you know.

Capmotion, are you out there? Liz, are you out there? I was looking for some intelligent comments and conversation.

Good night DogOnCrack

Oh, dear Lord!

Why is it that you libs have no sense of humor?

Are your lives really that sad?

What kind of intelligent conversation would you like?

Shall I give you a lesson in quantum physics?

Intelligent design, perhaps?

Come on man!

I’m bored!

NASA’s newest rocket is on the verge of blasting off on a test flight.

The Ares I-X rocket is set to lift off Tuesday morning. But forecasters say there’s a 60 percent chance that rain and clouds could delay the experimental flight.

It’s the first step in NASA’s effort to return astronauts to the moon.

The flight will last two minutes and cost $445 million. Parachutes will drop the first-stage booster into the Atlantic for recovery. The upper portion of the rocket — all fake parts — will fall uncontrolled into the ocean.

No matter what happens, NASA managers say they expect to learn a lot from the flight, even if it’s for another type of rocket. The White House is re-evaluating the entire human spaceflight program.

Sterling, that’s a ridiculous comment. Our system will be better than Canada’s and they don’t ration care and never have (regardless of what you might hear to the contrary). We are a much richer nation than they are, so just shut up. You will live to be old(er) dear!

As for small gov’t., yes I believe that would work theoretically if someone like Ron Paul had to power to change everything, but he doesn’t – so I’m going with the lesser of two evils and voting for our developed nation to have national healthcare like the rest of the world – and if you do some DD you will find more countries are happy with it than NOT.

Thank you DOG! Here’s a statement I can use…..

Glenn Beck is a staunch libertarian who despises both the GOP and corporate power and greed!

Except his own maybe? He’s a multi-multi-millionaire and he doesn’t seem to want to pay taxes. Sorry, but I’ve NEVER heard him say he despises the GOP, so could you show me an excerpt from one of his books, maybe, where he says that? Thanks.

Hi Kevin – yes, you got it right!

Sterling, if you don’t understand “capitalism” then you can’t possibly understand what Libertarians are all about! I can’t explain it all to you, so why don’t you do some reading by Ron Paul – he could tell you how capitalism should work and how real competition would keep healthcare costs under control. There would be no special treatment for “corporations”, who are NOT people.

I was pointing out that your comment didn’t make sense, regarding rationing vs. insurance cutting off benefits. What about my comment was ridiculous, other than it doesn’t agree with yours? Don’t make yourself look any less informed by trying to teach me about libertarianism. And I am a card-carrying capitalist. That’s why you’ve expressed your dislike for me from the beginning. Or did you forget all the times you’ve tried to insult me by calling me a capitalist?

I’m done. You’ve contradicted yourself more than once already this morning. Go drink some more Kool-Aid, and get your talking points straight before you start.

I’m a capitalist – as long as my gov’t doesn’t let capitalism get out of control – as in the last admin. I have NEVER contradicted myself – but everyone else here does it every day!

BTW, where did you get your “card”?

Entitlements do not GOOD capitalism make!!!

You can not be more contradictory in supporting nationalized health care and saying you also agree with everything about Ron Paul. Or in saying that you’re going with the lesser of two evils because he doesn’t have the money to be in power. The two are polar opposites.

http://www.lp.org/

Please watch this video – Ron Paul has lots of support on college campuses and now his son wants to run – under the GOP because that’s the only way he can. Listen to him…..

Sterling, I am for national healthcare right now because it works much better than what we have – and it’s working in ALL other developed countries. Right now, it’s our only choice – unless we want to be bulldozed by corporate America. The way our laws are now, that’s what will happen.

I disagree, Liz. It’s not working in every other country. There are other countries that are trying to get rid of it. It’s a very bad choice, and it’s certainly not our only choice. I don’t argue that health care doesn’t need reform; it does. But a government take-over is not the answer.

Does any think he can make up his mind on healthcare decision faster than a military decision? Wow we might wait 1 year for him to decide whether we need medical heip. Byut wharever you do do not rush your decision. LOL

You have to watch this LOL.. http://bit.ly/1l6iiy

A capitalist does not approve of the government take over of business, health care, wall street and the media, skyrocketing debt, tax hikes, and tinkering with what people are paid.

What is wrong with our health system will not be fixed by all of the garbage that is in the plans as written today. There is no tort reform or means testing.

Other countries report daily that they are confused that American is going down the same path that they are trying to rid themselves of. It is often said here that the health plans work in other countries…perhaps that is true but then they didn’t start out with what we have here and which over 70% of Americans like and are accustomed to. To say Americans will be happy with less than what they are used to is ridiculous. Socialist countries like what they have because they don’t know anything different but come here for procedures and care if they have the money to do so.

John, everything we are doing overseas now is the right thing to do. If you listen to Liz Cheney or her dad, you will be getting a false impression of what’s going on over there. They know nothing, although they think they do. Cheney & Bush ignored requests for more troops in Afghanistan for months and they should have been pulling troops out and using drones. Cheney is trying to cover his butt -and talking about it publicly is unprecedented. Cheney should just GO AWAY, like Bush did, and like every other admin. that is OVER with. Nobody knows more than the White House about our military operations and they shouldn’t comment on it, especially FOX shows hosted by “dumb” political commentators.

The sophomoric approach to design programs just to screw corporations will end in disaster. It takes money to feed the beast that is being constructed by the Obama administration. If jobs that create tax dollars are sacrificed for some pie-in-the-sky plan to punish the money makers as a means of social justice works America will be crippled for generations. So, you have a choice- subscribe to some moralistic view of retaliation towards corporations or tell government to get out of the way and let the money flow. It is either one or the other and you cannot believe in both as they are mutually exclusive theories.

I don’t know where you get your info. Carolynro, but it’s completely WRONG. Canadians love their healthcare system, flaws and all. They wouldn’t trade it for what we have for the world.

Like I said before, read “Super Capitalism”. It’s not just about us anymore – it’s about the WORLD.

With a 2-party system it’s impossible for us to be Libertarian, although it probably would work out well. Corporations cannot be allowed to run roughshod over citizens – and that’s what we have now! No morals, no ethics – just GREED! And Congress passed laws to accommodate them, not us.

People who have never had the American system cannot adequately compare what they have to our system. Period.

If you have always driven a 12 year- old used 4 door Ford sedan and it has gotten you where you are going you cannot understand what it is like to drive a Beemer. Canadians have always driven the used Ford sedan type of health care- Americans have the Beemer level of care and will be really pissed to be downgraded to the rickety old Ford sedan. You should understand the analogy. I doubt you have ever had to drive a 12-year old car.

You are just a walking talking point…You mistake greed for a drive to make money. Was your dad greedy for working for GM? Are you greedy trying to earn some sort of degree so that you can have a nice life-style. Step away from the liberal think tank for 5 minutes and analyze what you are living and stop preaching some ethereal liberal gobbity gook about corporate greed that provided you with your life the way it turned out. Is your boyfriend greedy for getting up each day and going to work to provide you with health insurance? You cannot put everything in neat little boxes to fit your current political confusion. Life is not black and white.

Your argument that the health plan will be an improvement is belied by the fact that all the plans in congress right now exclude over 20 million -and maybe up to 27 million Americans. How is that an improvement? There is no tort reform. There are unconstitutional aspects. There are huge tax increases and the potential to destroy more businesses and jobs. I guess you are free to ascribe to more pain and misery for the American people but be careful what you wish for. You live in a bubble right now but eventually you will need to look for a job. Have you checked what is available for 30-year old recent college graduates lately? You might want to do a reality check before you totally turn your life over to Obama like those poor saps down in Detroit who qued up for money for their heat bills two weeks ago who said they voted for Obama because they thought he said he would be passing out money. I saw that on tv the other day and got chills. Is that the country you are hoping for?

The Canadian Healthcare System is fabulous! Just ask any Canadian doctor that has immigrated to the U. S. !!!

Hey Olin: Yep, Liz is a “Idea du jour” kinda girl. No consistent ideas ever. One day she is a Van Jones liberal the next she is a Glenn Beck Libertarian. Her head must spin.

Watch when a State “op’s out”, it will have ramifications of NO FEDERAL AID to that state for Highways, education etc. This opens up a government Blackmail scheme!!!

If there is such a shortage in the H1N1 vaccine and that high risk groups are still waiting, how is it that Pennsylvania is giving it out to all school children in several schools, regardless of the non high risk classification? Is this a govern…mental rationing and when health care is needed, watch what State you live in?Read More

Sharynn – stop listening to fearmongers – that makes no sense whatsoever!

No, YOUR head is spinning out of control – you should talk to Ann Coulter – she could straighten it out! LOL

Hey Carolynro – YOU will not be affected by the tax increases – 90% of Americans won’t!

Prove it Liz…everything I have read shows that ALL AMERICANS will have some sort of tax hike because of the wild spending. No one will be unaffected by the trillions of dollars of debt. Use your head for something besides recycling MSNBC talking points. Last figure I heard was about 1800.00 in increased taxes a year to pay for the debt per PERSON. Not just the rich- everyone.

From The Muser:
The National Debt
Numbers At a Glance
Figures revised after Monthly Treasury Statement is issued.
Last revision:September 12, 2009

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Federal Monies, 2008
In: $2,523,858,000,000
Out: $2,978,664,000,000
Deficit: $454,806,000,000

Your Personal Share*
In: $1,506/month
Out: $1,777/month
Deficit: $271/month

The Debt Right Now:
11,999,564,144,238
(National Debt Clock
provided by zFacts.com)

Your Personal Share*
more than $84,462
(Your share has risen
about $43,000 in the past 8.5 years)

Current Monthly Interest
$36,513,000,000
(average for the past 6 months)

Your Personal Share*
$261.46/month
This comes out of your pocket every month.

(Interest figures can fluctuate widely from month to month. They are currently very low for the size of the debt, because recent, massive, short-term federal borrowing has been at near zero interest. Every month, we replace old high interest debt with new low interest debt. This will change dramatically when the eocnomic recovery begins. People and institutions that have parked money in US Treasury instruments will begin to move it into higher yield investments, and government borrowing costs will increase rapidly.)

Educate yourself just what exactly you are cheer leading for. If you still feel that the country is on the right path to solve the health care and financial problems, then so be it. But, at least be aware of what it means to your pocket book. It is not free, as you seem to think. If you still believe that Obama is going to not raise taxes on 90% of Americans, then there is no hope for you. You are stuck on stupid.

Fear is what keeps us from repeating mistakes.

Did you comment on the Wars when Bush was in office. Now we’re supposed to shut up and not comment. Sounds like an open and clear gov to me. Like every debate was going to be on C-Span. LOL LOL LOL LOl LOL LOL

Liz doesn’t even know the true definition of a Libertarian ! She just made up a entirely new group. Those who do not know…….! Hoot! Hoot!
Liz, you contradict yourself with every remark you make…..and show your ignorance repeatedly! You are only laughable! Hoot! Hoot!
Try reading something once in a while……or move away and start your own country…..your lack of information shows you to be a true bufoon! Hoot! Hoot!

Dog, how old is that video? I’m sure Ron Paul would not give Beck the time of day anymore – since his racist comment!

a Grad student? I think not! Hoot! Hoot!
a local, community college…..maybe?????…..and surely just a freshman, at best????….who thinks she knows all…. LOL
Hoot! Hoot!
When you outgrow the sandbox, and have something of importance to contribute….try again! Hoot! Hoot!

No, Carolynro – Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reilly – those guys are going to be taxed heavily! Not you or me!

Hey, are those guys creating jobs??? LOL I think NOT!

bbl….

Jimmy, how old are you? 5? Hoot hoot

Old enough to recognize a fake/phoney when I see one…..had enough experiences with naive little girls/boys like you in my classes over the last 25 years…..LOL….Hoot! Hoot!

Liz, you are not a libertarian….try looking up the definition……then you will discover why you are not! Hoot! Hoot!
According to your comments here…..you are either a Fascist or a Communist….or lost somewhere in between……and you have no idea how your ridiculous comments show your true ideals.
Another young smart a-s-s who thinks they have all the answers…..and you know nothing……shows your lack of education and understanding repeatedly!
What you really show here….is that you do not have any critical thinking skills….your remarks are ridiculous!
Hoot! Hoot!

If you are ever able to get beyond “cut and paste”….from talking points you think are correct….and reread your contradictory comments….you will see how laughable you are…..you have nothing of any importance to contribute here!
Hoot! Hoot!

lizard poop!…lizardpoop! Hoot! Hoot! LOL LOL

“More people are seeking care in hospital emergency rooms, and the cost of caring for ER patients has soared 17 percent over two years, despite efforts to direct patients with nonurgent problems to primary care doctors instead, according to new state data.”

“Visits to Massachusetts emergency rooms grew 7 percent between 2005 and 2007, to 2,469,295 visits. The estimated cost of treating those patients – including salaries for caregivers, tests such as X-rays and CT scans, and medicines – jumped from $826 million to $973 million, according data provided to the Globe.”

“Several physicians and policy makers said the state information, along with other new data from Harvard researchers, suggests that emergency room crowding and rising costs will not be solved by providing people with health insurance alone, despite optimistic talk by politicians who advocated for the law.”

“Andrew Dreyfus, a senior vice president at Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Massachusetts, the state’s largest insurer, agreed more information is needed but said the state’s soaring emergency room costs – and healthcare costs generally – are not going to be solved by mandatory health insurance.”

- Boston Globe

http://tinyurl.com/dzkm37

“French consumers pay for roughly 13 percent of health care out of pocket, roughly the same percentage as U.S. consumers. Moreover, because many health care services are not covered, and because many of the best providers refuse to accept the fee schedules imposed by the insurance funds, more than 92 percent of French residents purchase complementary private insurance.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

Liz..if you believe that your taxes won’t increase you are hopelessly ignorant.

AP
2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won’t go up
2 Obama administration officials can’t guarantee middle-class Americans won’t see tax hike

* By Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer
* On 9:24 pm EDT, Sunday August 2, 2009

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s treasury secretary said Sunday he cannot rule out higher taxes to help tame an exploding budget deficit, and his chief economic adviser would not dismiss raising them on middle-class Americans as part of a health care overhaul.

Dem Senator Warns of ‘Big, Big Tax’ on Middle Class in Baucus Bill

September 16, 2009 7:45 AM

The West Virginia Democrat worries, however, that a lot of middle class workers, like the coal miners in his state, will end up facing “a big, big tax” under the Baucus bill because they currently enjoy generous employer-provided health care benefits which they receive tax free.

14
Oct
The Huge Middle Class Tax Increase Coming Our Way With ObamaCare

Posted by: Curt @ 2:34 pm in Barack Obama, Economy, Health Care, Obamanomics, POWER GRAB!, Socialism, Socialized Health Care, Universal Health Care, taxes | 228 views

The former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, warns today on the effect ObamaCare will have on our economy and health care. These facts should be painfully obvious to those with even one iota of common sense. This bill will lead to a huge middle class tax increase:
As it now stands, the plan proposed by Democrats and the Obama administration would not only fail to reduce the cost burden on middle-class families, it would make that burden significantly worse.

“Conditions in Italy’s public hospitals are considered substandard, particularly in the south. They lack not just modern technology, but basic goods and services; and overcrowding is widespread.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

And when the middle class is hit with higher taxes they lay off their low-income employees. I know logic is hard for a person who thinks with their heart but try to follow the discussion.

Hey Dog…have you decided when you are going to Troy yet?

Troy is the brilliant city that decided to build a $900,000 “green house” a couple of years ago in a cold climate. The pipes froze and burst and ruined all the flooring. Typical liberal disaster…using non-traditional heating and it failed…well intentioned but totally flawed outcome.

Obama’s Protectionist Policies Hurting Low-Income Americans

by Daniel Griswold

Daniel Griswold directs the Center for Trade Policy Studies at the Cato Institute and author of a new book, Mad about Trade: Why Main Street America Should Embrace Globalization (Cato Institute, 2009).

September 29, 2009
http://www.freetrade.org/node/959

The Tax Foundation

September 21, 2009
Accounting for What Families Pay in Taxes and What They Receive in Government Spending

by Scott A. Hodge

“… Low-income families will be disproportionately affected by regressive cap-and-trade policies and higher tobacco taxes. Here on the tax side of the equation, these new, higher taxes hit low-income families hard. One might expect that Obama’s “Making Work Pay” tax credit would balance these new burdens out, but much of that refundable credit’s benefit counts as spending rather than as tax relief…”

“Spanish patients cannot choose their physicians, either primary care or specialists. Rather, they are assigned a primary care doctor from a list of physicians in their local community. If more specialized care is needed, the primary care physician refers patients to a network of specialists. Unlike U.S. managed care, it is not possible to go “out of network” unless the patient has private health insurance. This has sparked an interesting phenomenon whereby sick Spaniards move in order to change physicians or find networks with shorter waiting lists.”

“Some health services that U.S. citizens take for granted are almost totally unavailable. For example, rehabilitation, convalescence, and care for those with terminal illness are usually left to the patient’s relatives. There are very few public nursing and retirement homes, and few hospices and convalescence homes.”

“The regional variation is important because Spaniards face bureaucratic barriers in trying to go to another region for treatment.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

Carolyn, I’ll let you know!

Every president in modern times who has said they would not raise taxes during their presidential campaign has ended up raising them. Go ahead and continue your trip on the Good Ship Lollipop but only the far, far, far, leftists and kook fringer socialists are still insisting that Obama will keep his “no increased taxes on the middle and lower class” promises. That is why Obama, whe interviewed recently, refused to admit that an increase in a fee was not really a tax. This kind of parsing is a dead give away that a lie is being told.

Ok….Dog.

I read about Massachusetts and Tennessee government health plans and I could have been reading about England or Italy!

“The Norwegian health care system has experienced serious problems with long and growing waiting lists. Approximately 280,000 Norwegians are estimated to be waiting for care on any given day (out of a population of just 4.6 million). The average wait for hip replacement surgery is more than four months; for a prostectomy, close to three months; and for a hysterectomy, more than two months. Approximately 23 percent of all patients referred for hospital admission have to wait longer than three months for admission.”

“Moreover, such delays may represent only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to rationing care in Norway. In some cases, care may be denied altogether if it is judged not to be cost-effective. As Knut Erik Tranoy, Professor Emeritus at the Centre for Medical Ethics of the University of Oslo and an original member of the government’s Health Care Priorities Commission, explains: It is important to see (a) that, in a public health service of the Nordic type, any given amount of resources always has alternative uses. And (b) it is neither medically nor morally defensible to put scarce resources to uses which will foreseeably yield less favorable outcomes than other uses—save fewer lives, cure fewer patients.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

“Almost no one disputes that Britain’s National Health Service faces severe problems, and few serious national health care advocates look to it as a model. Yet it appears in Moore’s movie SiCKO as an example of how a national health care system should work, so it is worth examining.”

“As many as 750,000 Britons are currently awaiting admission to NHS hospitals. These waits are not insubstantial and can impose significant risks on patients. For example, by some estimates, cancer patients can wait as long as eight months for treatment. Delays in receiving treatment are often so long that nearly 20 percent of colon cancer patients considered treatable when first diagnosed are incurable by the time treatment is finally offered.”

“In some cases, to prevent hospitals from using their resources too quickly, mandatory minimum waiting times have been imposed. The fear is that patients will flock to the most efficient hospitals or those with smaller backlogs. Thus a top-flight hospital like Suffolk East PCT was ordered to impose a minimum waiting time of at least 122 days before patients could be treated or the hospital would lose a portion of its funding.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

“The problem affects not only hospitals. There are also lengthy waits to see physicians, particularly specialists. In 2004, as a cost-cutting measure, the government negotiated low salaries for general practitioners in exchange for allowing them to cut back the hours they practice. Few are now available nights or weekends. Problems with specialists are even more acute. For example, roughly 40 percent of cancer patients never get to see an oncology specialist.”

“The government’s official target for diagnostic testing is a wait of no more than 18 weeks by 2008. In reality, it doesn’t come close.242 The latest estimates suggest that for most specialties, only 30 to 50 percent of patients are treated within 18 weeks. For trauma and orthopedics patients, the figure is only 20 percent. Overall, more than half of British patients wait more than 18 weeks for care.”

“Explicit rationing also exists for some types of care, notably kidney dialysis, open heart surgery, and some other expensive procedures and technologies. Patients judged too ill or aged for the procedures to be cost effective may be denied treatment altogether.”

“The British public is well aware of the need for reform. Nearly two-thirds of Britons (63 percent) say that the need for reform is “urgent,” while another 24 percent believe it is “desirable.” Fully 60 percent of Britons believe that making it easier for patients to spend their own money on health care would improve quality.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

Wow…. great info, Dog!

Dog, Do you know how far Lakeville is from Troy?

Carolynro – this house was TOTALLY privately-funded! I’ve been thru it – it’s awesome!

Troy is the brilliant city that decided to build a $900,000 “green house” a couple of years ago in a cold climate. The pipes froze and burst and ruined all the flooring. Typical liberal disaster…using non-traditional heating and it failed…well intentioned but totally flawed outcome.

So go ahead and lie lie lie! LOL

For all the fabricated stories that Dog is posting, I could post a good one about each country!

“Waiting lists are a major problem under the Canadian system. No accurate government data exists, but provincial reports do show at least moderate waiting lists. The best information may come from a survey of Canadian physicians by the Fraser Institute, which suggests that as many as 800,000 Canadians are waiting for treatment at any given time. According to this survey, treatment time from initial referral by a GP through consultation with a specialist, to final treatment, across all specialties and all procedures (emergency, nonurgent, and elective), averaged 17.7 weeks in 2005. And that doesn’t include waiting to see the GP in the first place.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

“A look at specialties with especially long waits shows that the longest waits are for procedures such as hip or knee replacement and cataract surgery, which could arguably be considered elective. However, fields that could have significant impact on a patient’s health, such as neurosurgery, also have significant waiting times. In such cases, the delays could be life threatening. A study in the Canadian Medical Association Journal found that at least 50 patients in Ontario alone have died while on the waiting list for cardiac catheterization. Data from the Joint Canada–United States Survey of Health (a project of Statistics Canada and the National Center for Health Statistics) revealed that “thirty-three percent of Canadians who say they have an unmet medical need reported being in pain that limits their daily activities.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-613.pdf

Sure, the wait times might be a little longer, but the cost savings make it worth it….

WASHINGTON — It’s the bogeyman of the heated debate about overhauling U.S. health care. Critics charge that revamping the American system will turn the country into Canada, with a nationalized health care system and people dying as they wait for needed services they no longer can get.

New Ipsos-McClatchy online polls find that patients in Canada are indeed much more frustrated by waiting times to see medical specialists than patients in the United States are, and slightly less happy with the waiting times to see their family doctors.

However, they’re much more likely to say that they have access to all the health care services they need at costs they can afford, by a margin of 65 to 49 percent.

Anyway, our system will not be like theirs – and you can always buy the “cadillac” plan. If you do that, your wait times will be greatly reduced I’m sure! The best doctors out there will probably only take patients with “cadillac” plans, and even those plans will probably cost much less than what you are paying now – or in Dog’s case – slightly more expensive! LMAO!

Fabricated?

I think everyone can click the link and see for themselves that it’s all entirely true.

On the other hand, the lies that you constantly spew will never become the truth no matter how much you endlessly repeat them.

Yours is the most childish and delusional mind that I’ve ever encountered.

If you truly are the age you claim to be then you are in desperate need of serious psychiatric help.

TOO FUNNY!!!

http://is.gd/4EzEi

You’ve got to be kidding me !!!!!!!!!!!

“Check it out, I looked at the website, it is for real. I am forwarding this message. I did check out “Safe Link Wireless”, and it appears to be a real government program. I had a former employee call me earlier today inquiring about a job, and at the end of the conversation he gave me his phone number. I asked the former employee if this was a new cell phone number and he told me yes this was his “Obama phone.” I asked him what an “Obama phone” was and he went on to say that welfare recipients are now eligible to receive (1) a FREE new phone and (2) approx 70 minutes of FREE minutes every month. I was a little skeptical so I Googled it and low and behold he was telling the truth. TAX PAYER MONEY IS BEING REDISTRIBUTED TO WELFARE RECIPIENTS FOR FREE CELL PHONES. This program was started earlier this year. Enough is enough, the ship is sinking and it’s sinking fast. The very foundations that this country was built on are being shaken. The age old concepts of God, family, and hard work have flown out the window and are being replaced with “Hope and Change” and “Change we can believe in.” You can click on the link below to read more about the “Obama phone”…just have a barf bag ready.

This is unbelievable!!!!

https://www.safelinkwireless.co

You totally or purposefully missed the point about the house built by the city of Troy…it needed sunshine to power it and they built it in a place where there is not enough sun to sustain the mechanics of heating the home during the winter. It is unclear why the solar system failed but regardless to build it in a cold climate was folly. It was funded by Reinvestment Act money through Lawrence Tech so it was a government program partnered with DTE. So, it was tax payer funded, for the most part. It was opened for a tour for the first time since it was completed on October 10, 2009 from 10 am to 4 pm. The house is 800 square feet for a price tag of $900,000. that means it costs over $1100.00 a square foot and unless you are a millionaire, you cannot afford it. The home is owned by the City of Troy and looks like a cross between a state park bath house and a school portable class room.It is not beautiful and I do not believe you toured it.

http://www.solarfeeds.com/calfinder-resident-solar/7375-qoff-the-grid-solar-home-stays-qout-of-commissionq.html

Our health system will look exactly like those of socialist countries if Obama shoves it down our throats. There will be more fraud than there is now with an increased role of government as there will not be enough monitors to keep track and no incentive by workers to strictly make sure rules are being followed because the government workers get paid no matter how badly they do their jobs. There is no incentive to protect the bottom line. Without a profit motive people just don’t give rip and they do what they need to do to get by. And they will all be union employees on top of it as icing on the “lack of motivation” cake.

OMG, Carolyn, thank you for posting the link about that house so that we could see it for ourselves. You’re right; the house is not beautiful in any way. And the whole ridiculous premise would be laughable if it weren’t for the fact that the taxpayers footed the bill for this group’s folly. That makes it frightening, to say the least.

Cadillac health plans will carry a 40% surcharge, if you buy one. So, again we are back to being just like any other socialist country if this health plan is passed.

Hey Hey Sterling! How are you? This is so much fun…the lies keep getting set up and we keep knocking them down.

Comment by Liz
October 27th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

Anyway, our system will not be like theirs – and you can always buy the “cadillac” plan. If you do that, your wait times will be greatly reduced I’m sure! The best doctors out there will probably only take patients with “cadillac” plans, and even those plans will probably cost much less than what you are paying now – or in Dog’s case – slightly more expensive! LMAO!
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Everything I have read says private health plans will cost more under Obama care. And if it is true that doctors will only take patients with cadillac plans how is that going to solve the “health crisis” in America. Now I know you are a put up job…..

In Massachusetts, where they have a government mandated health system, doctors are doing “group visits”. They see a group of people all at once instead of seeing patients individually because they have to cram in as many people each day as they can in order to make enough money to stay open. Sounds like China to me.

You guys are doing a bang-up job!! Keep up the good work. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but there’s no guarantee that others will agree. However, shoveling your opinion as fact is shameful. She told Dog that she could fabricate a good story for every one of his, or did I get that backwards? Anyway, she’s had plenty of time and either she couldn’t or wouldn’t post her fabrications. Wait, did I say that wrong again?

This is a great Blog and very entertaining comments. I’ll check back again.

$900,000?

OMG!!!

That thing looks smaller than a trailer and uglier than sin!!!

Does Ali ever leave comments on this section??

Yes, and the city owns it. A solar company got Reinvestment Act funds to come here from California and set up shop. Now, in California $900,000 will by a house the size of a state park bath house but in Michigan $900,000 buys a considerable amount more in square footage. A waste of tax dollars. Had private funding paid for it, there would be a difference in my opinion but when a state like ours is suffering so, I cannot connect the dots between using tax dollars for “experiments” instead of spending funds that more directly and expediently would help our citizens. We cannot wait for the experiment to pan out. One family leaves Michigan every minute looking for work or taking work elsewhere. Soon, there will be no “elsewhere” to look for work if government keeps frittering away our tax dollars on pipe dreams.

That should read: one family leaves Michigan every 12 minutes…

“In countries where private health insurance is available, governments often impose rules on what sort of coverage is permissible. For example, Australia prohibits private insurance policies from covering the ambulatory care co-payments required in the public programme. Canada prohibits private health insurers from covering benefits included in the national plan.”

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf

Carolynro – you don’t think anything through. How will we ever know if we never try? They said the same thing about Medicare and Social Security – and yes, they are in the red now, but in a good economy they are in the black. After we get out of this giant hole that the Bush admin. dug for us, it will all work out. You are almost more negative than Ann Coulter, and I didn’t think that was possible! Remember…..

progressive = progress
conservative = going back to the 19th century

nuff said!

And stop making assumptions about the healthcare plan – it’s not even CLOSE to finished yet!!! Doh!

Taxpayers paid NOTHING for that solar house and the land was donated by a wealthy citizen. Stop the lies – even though I know it makes you feel better! LMAO!

What a wonderful program! How selfish can you possibly be?

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/home.aspx

I think it’s great! I bet the airtime is donated by local wireless services – after all it costs them nothing. They probably donate the phones too. I’m sure they are the simplest phones you can get.

I just don’t understand you people – I bet none of you donate to charity. You’re too selfish.

You really need to think through your statements before you post them. Calling others here selfish because they disagree with out-of-control government spending is beyond naive. If you are telling the truth about your age, then you’re way old enough to know better. The desire and ability to give to charitable organizations in order to help those less fortunate than you is liberty. The government forcing you to pay taxes in order to fund charities that you may or may not agree with is called tyranny.

You never did look up the definition of libertarian, did you?

Comment by Liz
October 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

And stop making assumptions about the healthcare plan – it’s not even CLOSE to finished yet!!! Doh!
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It doesn’t seem to stop you from making large leaps in logic, which would cripple a reasonable thinking person.

And I knew that you couldn’t answer the Ron Paul question with any signs of intellect. He is a Constitutionalists, he believes in the Constitution, if it isn’t in the enumerated powers of Art 1, Sec 8, the Federal Government shouldn’t be doing it.

There is NO provision in the Constitution allowing the Federal Government to force you into Social Security, into health care programs run by the Government, which does not have the power to form or run a health care program.

chas

Comment by Liz
October 27th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

What a wonderful program! How selfish can you possibly be?

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/home.aspx

I think it’s great! I bet the airtime is donated by local wireless services – after all it costs them nothing. They probably donate the phones too. I’m sure they are the simplest phones you can get.

I just don’t understand you people – I bet none of you dona

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This program is paid for with TAX DOLLARS! And I have donated several cells to Women’s Aid Programs. You are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance!

Comment by Liz
October 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

Taxpayers paid NOTHING for that solar house and the land was donated by a wealthy citizen. Stop the lies – even though I know it makes you feel better! LMAO!

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It was paid for by Reinvestment Act money and DTE. Read the website. College kids built it

Comment by Liz
October 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

And stop making assumptions about the healthcare plan – it’s not even CLOSE to finished yet!!! Doh!
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You make predictions every day about what it will do and cost and cover and how it compares to Canada so if you ask us to stop making predictions so should you..

Between 01/2003 and 12/2007, Medicare trustees reported that the unfunded liabilities of Social Security and Medicare grew by a $10.4 trillion. This is a matter of public record.

The trustees also say it will be broke by 2018. The current recession has sped up the deficit because there are many unemployed and therefore, fewer contributions, but the fund was already in decline well before the recession started.

From Crain’s Detroit Business:
Solar House opening this Fall in Troy as green demonstration project
By Jay Greene
Advertisement

A cutting-edge, 800-square-foot solar-powered house built by Lawrence Technological University students may finally open this fall in Troy, nearly two years after it was donated to the city by the Troy Chamber of Commerce

Also from Crain’s Detroit Business:

In 2007, Lawrence Tech originally built the solar house for a Solar Decathlon on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. (tax dollars paid for it).

From Political Wrinkles:

Lawrence Technological University, with help from DTE, mostly paid for the building. Its students built the 800-square-foot home, which was supposed to be livable year-round, free from the grid and churn out enough solar power to support a home-based business and electric vehicle.

Wrong again, Liz.

The City of Troy Chamber of Commerce donated the house to The City of Troy. :

Solar House opening this Fall in Troy as green demonstration project
By Jay Greene

A cutting-edge, 800-square-foot solar-powered house built by Lawrence Technological University students may finally open this fall in Troy, nearly two years after it was donated to the city by the Troy Chamber of Commerce

Troy Chamber of Commerce consists of businesses – and one of the business owners donated the property! Doh! It was a great project for those students.

If DTE helped pay for it, then how are taxpayers involved? The University got a federal grant – not unlike many grants they give out every year. Lots of grants are paid for by private corporations, and I think that was the case with this one, but I’m not sure. Even corporations have to give away some of their huge profits – or pay Uncle Sam. Most would rather give grants for educational purposes!

I am not making predictions about the healthcare bill – you are making assumptions!

Grant money is tax money! I read that the solar company got Reinvestment Act money

Oh liz…you are a mess

This country will never live by the Constitution – it’s almost impossible to make those kinds of changes in Washington, but I do think it’s a noble idea and it just might work for us. However, we will never really know, will we?

Lots of grant money is donated by private corporations – I just told you that! Doh! Wake up!

Reinvestment Act money is donated by financial institutions – NOT taxpayers!!!

The Community Reinvestment Act (or CRA, Pub.L. 95-128, title VIII, 91 Stat. 1147, 12 U.S.C. § 2901 et seq.) is a United States federal law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods.

In other words, the money to build the house was DONATED and maybe someday they will sell the house! It was for a project – and the financial institution writes it off!

Richard Dawkins is so fun to fisk!

http://tinyurl.com/yknf53y

It’s amazing how you think you pay for everything! Did you know that about 90% of scholarships are from private corporations – mostly for degress in areas they need. My cousin got a full scholarship from a private corporation, and now he works for them.

The Community Reinvestment Act, signed into law by Carter and revamped by Clinton, is the primary factor in the recent economic crisis as it was directly responsible for creating the housing bubble.

What group originally conceived the idea for the CRA and pushed for it’s passing?

ACORN!!!

Who’s that former “community organizer” that used to be their lawyer?

Hi Carolyn and Dog

I’ve been reading the posts and having a great laugh…. Lizzie is really unbelievable… Everyone here doesn’t have a clue but she KNOWS everything…..LOL and …….
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Comment by Liz
October 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Lots of grant money is donated by private corporations – I just told you that! Doh! Wake up!
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I have never heard an adult say DOH….. Lizzies favorite word. LOLOL I think she may be 13 years old……

Progressive = A blatant mislabeling like everything else the far left likes to call itself. In truth, people who adopt this description are actually REGRESSIVE if anything as they seek to return modern society to pre-American forms of tyranny and barbarism.

Conservative = TRUE PROGRESS as it seeks to preserve the constitutional liberties that have allowed the United States to modernize the world.

Merle, it all makes perfect sense!

Homer Simpson is her primary source for info!

LMAO!!!

I was not talking about the 1975 act

LOLOLOL DOG!!!!!!! I think you hit the nail on the head

Him and Comedy Central.

chas

I was not talking about the Community Reinvestment Act , The original home was built by Lawrence University for a competition. It was built on the Washington Mall. It was then brought to Troy with the help of many organizations. The chamber of commerce somehow got possession and then donated it to Troy. However the original funding came from the department of energy:

“Team ALOeTERRA will receive $100,000 over two years from the U.S. Department of Energy to
support the advancement of solar technologies research central to the principles of the 2007 Solar
Decathlon. However, the actual cost for the team to design, build, and transport their home
to Washington D.C. is estimated to exceed $500,000. “

Comment by Liz
October 27th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

In other words, the money to build the house was DONATED and maybe someday they will sell the house! It was for a project – and the financial institution writes it off!
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No one pays $1100.00 per square foot for an 800 square foot house in Troy, Michigan!

The one “green house” in my town has been on the market for over 2 years…it is too expensive.

Why did you tell us that you’d toured the Solar House?

Carolynro, you’re such a dufus! The 2009 Act is totally different – and this house was built two years ago. I toured it when they were re-constructing it. I don’t care whose grant paid for it and why do you? Are you a taxpayer in Troy? What is the big deal? You people slay me – but you are very amusing, to say the least!

You think you know everything – reality check!!!

Hey Dog – you know if it was up the the conservatives we’d all be riding horses and living in log cabins in the woods! LMAO!!! They are against EVERY form of progress!

I heard today that they didn’t want to extend unemployment benefits AND they don’t want to fund the flu vaccine! The GOP is getting more looney by the day!!!

I agree with John McCain’s mom – they DON’T represent me! (or anyone but themselves)

42 Democrats in the House and Senate have followed Sanders’ lead by cutting public service announcements. Only four Republicans have followed suit — Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Jim Risch of Idaho and Mike Johanns of Nebraska and Rep. Jo Emerson of Missouri. Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) has also promoted the vaccine.

Limbaugh, on a recent radio show, lambasted the Obama administration and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelieus for admonishing the country to get vaccinated. Limbaugh said he has never been urged by a doctor to get vaccinated, and punctuated his commentary by saying, “Screw you, Ms. Sebelius, I’m not going to take it, precisely because you’re now telling me I must… Have you heard of the concept of liberty and freedom?”

Sebelius has stressed that the vaccinations are voluntary, and that the Obama administration is not attempting any kind of mandatory requirement.

But Senate Republicans are distancing themselves from Limbaugh’s remarks, saying they understand the concern over the vaccine and individual choice — although they plan to take it.

If conservatives and libertarians had our way then every single American citizen would be assured ample opportunity to have the homes, automobiles and careers of their indisputable personal choices without question!

You are a brainwashed imbecile!

That’s quite a statement Dog! How would that be accomplished? Spell it out for me, if you can.

but I won’t hold my breath!

Spell it out?

It’s called FREEDOM, DUMBA$$!!!

Who is this DUMBA$$ MAD WOMAN??? SHE’S INSANE!!! LMAO!!!

So so madddddddddddd I sure don’t wanna know her!

She’s taking lessons from Ann Coulter! I love it when she loses her “train of thought”! DOH!

Any brains in that hormonal head dearie?

Is that MetalGirl? She’s enchanted by Sarah Palin. I think she likes to drink beer! Is she a redneck??? She talks like a truck driver. Are you in love?

I found her theme song – from Woodstock! Only difference is – Woodstock was “peaceful” – not like her!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Bruce

Get used to it Dog – Libertarians need lots of “Volunteers of America”

http://tammybruce.com/biography

http://talkstreamlive.wordpress.com/

I have to admit I don’t know who she is. Her name sounds like a country singer, but she sure is angry! It says openly gay, maybe she would like Rachel Maddow! You think?

RaCHE MadCow only wishes she could get with Tammy!

Our Boudica has much higher standards!

Many travelers still rely on comprehensive printed guidebooks for tourism information. But travelers are also increasingly using mobile technology to plan a trip or find their way around.

Now a technology called QR codes, for Quick Response, offers a way to forge a functional relationship between your guidebook and your smart phone. The codes are already big in Japan, but relatively unknown in the U.S.

QR codes are essentially barcodes that can be scanned by smart phone cameras and other devices. You aim your camera at a QR code on a page in a travel book, for example, and it links to information online, such as a map or directions based on the user’s location. The user can also store information in the phone about the place that’s described on the page.

QR codes can also appear in media other than books. You can scan them off a computer screen. They’ve been put on T-shirts and even billboards.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Fifty-seven percent (57%) of voters nationwide believe the health care proposal being considered by Congress would raise the cost of care while 53%believe the quality of care would go down.

Barack Obama sees approval rating plummet

Barack Obama’s decline in popularity since the summer is the worst of any US president at the same stage in a first term in over 50 years.

The most recent public opinion poll carried out by the research company Gallup found Mr Obama’s approval rating stood at 53 per cent for the third quarter of 2009.

The figure represents a sharp drop for the 62 per cent he recorded from April.

I’m also sick of hearing about this ridiculous health care bill being deficit neutral. I understand we have to start funding it next year, even though it will be 2013 before it kicks in. Why don’t they start coughing up the numbers on what it’s going to cost each tax payer? Is it going to be Sterling neutral? Or, like every other program, is Sterling and other citizens like her going to do all the funding and reap none of the so-called benefit?

By ARTHUR C. BROOKS

Regardless of how President Barack Obama’s health-care agenda plays out in Congress, it has not been a success in public opinion. Opposition to ObamaCare has risen all year.

According to the Gallup polling organization, the percentage of Americans who believe the cost of health care for their families will “get worse” under the proposed reforms rose to 49% from 42% in just the past month. The percentage saying it would “get better” stayed at 22%.

Arthur Brooks continued:
Americans recoil at policies that strip choices from citizens and pass them to bureaucrats. ObamaCare systematically does so. The current proposals in Congress would effectively limit choice across the entire spectrum of health care: What kind of health insurance citizens can buy, what kind of doctors they can see, what kind of procedures their doctors will perform, what kind of drugs they can take, and what treatment options they may have.

Arthur Brooks continued:

Meanwhile, ObamaCare would limit the ability of people to choose affordable insurance coverage through less-comprehensive, consumer-driven insurance plans. And it wouldn’t allow Americans to shop for better health-care plans from out-of-state carriers.

For article in entirety:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704335904574495131591949574.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Obama has not raised as much money at Bush did….hmmmmmm, interesting.

He’s crashing and burning, and it’s all Bush’s fault!!! Whodathunk Bush had that much power?

Bush was a nice guy and sincere. Obama is a puppet who has no principles except the ones that promote his radical background and agenda.

Bush bruised my libertarian sensibilities on a weekly basis, but at least he didn’t scare me half to death every time he opened his mouth. And yes, he was sincere, and his Christian nature kept his heart honest, unlike this Godless idiot running the show now.

S Rockefeller and Gov. Manchin finally got hit in the head with a lump of coal over O’s decline of mining permits especally ones allready in operation. Their response “that’s not fair” I’ll bet that has Washington attention. Both were for cap and tax to. Let me just say “way to go boneheads”

You guys see things thru different glasses than most everyone else. I thought Bush was a big jerk cowboy, idiot, uncaring, uncommunicative bully who did anything he wanted to regardless of the consequences by using “strongarm” tactics. I see Obama as an honest, caring, EDUCATED (way beyond Bush), informed multi-tasker who will do a lot in the next 8 years for the good of the country….a true American.

But, that’s just my opinion (along with most of the rest of the country).

Looks like Arthur Brooks is making some pretty wild assumptions! LOL

Sterling, it’s not going to cost you anything, unless you are very rich. If it costs you more in taxes, just refuse to pay them! LMAO!

Bush’s approval rating never got out of the 30’s – so I think over 50 is pretty darn good!

I saw yesterday were a motel owner told his staff to speak English in his presence. The ones who did’nt comply got fired. They ran out side and made signs that said racist bigot in English, wait a minute English??? I know if I had to learn a new language racist bigot wuold be the first words I’d want to learn. I worked for a boss that would’nt let you talk at all. Hey employees he’s the boss.

Well, his last four years never saw his approval rating over 50…..

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm

This is very telling…..

http://users.pop.umn.edu/~ruggles/2004.htm

Bruce, I can understand why he did that – they could be talkin “chit” about him right in front of him. LOL

But not DURING his first term, and certainly not within the first ten MONTHS of it.

I’m supposed to believe that it won’t cost me anything (besides my health, anyway) because you said so? I don’t think so. I didn’t just fall off Olinl’s turnip truck yesterday, ya know.

Well, that’s because he “inherited” a great economy. Took him about four years to destroy it!

Why would you want to believe all the lies you hear. If he says it will be deficit neutral, then it will – and 90% of Americans won’t pay more in taxes. If you have to pay more in taxes and you are below the income threshold, then just refuse to pay them.

Problem solved!

What in the world does talkin chit have ti do with the signs being written in English

I’m always amazed by how entrenched you are in your fallacies and fabrications.

Liz I don’t remember anyone at any time during the election holding a gun to O’s head making him run for President so just stop with the I inherited 6th grade crap. He ask for it and he got it.

Exactly, Bruce.

INDEPENDENT JOE LIEBERMAN says he won’t vote for the health bill if it adds one penny to the debt. So, I would watch him.

Bush’s favorability was 60% for first two years and 50% for second two years of his first term.

Biden’s favorability ratings are lower than Cheney’s first term ratings! Cheney’s were 65% and Bidens are 35% for the same time period of first term.

How can it not. Dems say no, Rep say yes, I say I’m not willing to take the chance since no one can predict the future. My life experence tells me” much money”

New NBC poll just out says 42% have a favorable opinion of the Democrats and just 25% have a favorable opinion of the GOP – all time low!!!

have a nice day

Bye Ladies, Keep up the Good fight

Comment by Liz
October 28th, 2009 at 6:49 am

Why would you want to believe all the lies you hear. If he says it will be deficit neutral, then it will – and 90% of Americans won’t pay more in taxes. If you have to pay more in taxes and you are below the income threshold, then just refuse to pay them.

Problem solved!
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Liz…why don’t we just agree that we source our information from completely different people and that we are never going to agree. The only advantage some of have is the fact that most of us here have years of experience and observation that politicians are rarely, if ever, clever or honest enough to understand the cost of their “Son Of Flubber” experiments with the American tax dollar. If you listen to pro-Obama media…they are not telling the whole story and if you listen to conservative media you hear critical analysis. It is your option to listen to and believe in who you think makes you feel better. Many of us chose to listen to the voices that are more accurately predictive of what happens to the tax dollar in our country. Look what the dems did to Olympia Snowe. But, this constant insistance that government spending is only a good thing when crafted by liberals is crippling your argument. No problems are solved. Obama is crippled by his seat high on Mount Olympus and is not leading. He is letting the ruffians in congress run amok.

See you trust an NBC poll. NBC is totally in the tank for Obama because the boss is trying to get government money for GE which is in trouble.

Here is another poll

40% of Americans identify themselves as conservatives
36% say they are moderate
20% say they are liberal

Here is a primer on how the left polls more democrats when doing their polls:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910210035

You put polls up that consistently weight in favor of democrats…they ask more liberals and democrats for their opinions. That is fine but again, you have little credence for fact. You instead demonstrate feelings which cannot be confused with hard facts.

Only 43% of Obama voters would vote for him again. That is why Obama is paralyzed and running all over raising money. He is more concerned about the 2009 elections in Virginia and New Jersey and about the 2010 mid-terms. He knows his party is in trouble and has attended 27 or 28 fund raisers since elected compared to Clinton who went to 5 and GW Bush who went to 6 in the same time period. He is not acting like a leader. He is running for president, still.

CAROLYN, you can always annoy a LIB like LIZZIE by using facts and logic…:)

How can you spend 900 billion and be deficit neutral? Talk about fuzzy math. That’s way lower than the cost will be as we all know. When has the gov ever estimated a cost and come in at or below. Answer. NEVER

This blog is so full of BS, it’s hilarious! Nuff said!

Carolynro, that’s fine! I used to be conservative, until they proved to me that they can’t be trusted. It’s so obvious to me – and millions of other Americans – that they are only in it because of GREED. They don’t care what the American people want – they only care what their largest contributors want. The GOP is NOT contributing anything at the moment – except character assassination. Can you name anything they have done in this administration? I can’t. They need to be thrown out. They still want the bill killed, which is NOT an option! All they are doing is criticizing everything that’s being done and they have NOTHING to offer. How do they think that is going to get them re-elected? DOH!

Have a great day!

The bill will be killed because it’s a bad bill. ‘Nuff said.

Have a great day! No matter how rude or insulting I am to you, as long as I say have a great day, it makes it okay!!

I used to be a democrat until I realized that they only care about getting re-elected and will dupe anyone who gives them a chance to do so. But, again…experience trumps emotion.
The republicans are in the minority and are shoved aside accordingly. But, still Harry Reid is looking for tricky ways to pass the health bill that he should be able to pass, straight up. But, he can’t convince all of his party to go along. Pelosi is looking for a new name for “public option” when she could get the bills passed alone because so many are against what they are serving. Just examine the reality of how things are going down. Never mind how I feel. Just observe and see how much trouble this administration is in. RULE # 1 OF POLITICS- WHEN YOUR ENEMY IS HANGING ITSELF- LET THEM. The republicans are playing it smart. You libs all got what you thought you wanted in Obama. But something stinks and well over a majority of America smell it and do not like how it is going. So, don’t blame the republicans. Blame the democrats for screwing up this wonderful opportunity to take the country by storm. You don’t get it and it has nothing to do with anyone on this blog. It is all on Obama and his lefty spoilers.

And BTW- YOU try to have a wonderful day….:)

Lizard…you are a real horse’s a-s-s! Go back to the barn until you can contribute something that is CORRECT! Making up things, as you do…..doesn’t count….and certainly can’t be considered “intelligent” Hoot! Hoot!

The only person here that is full of BS is you.

You couldn’t be any more inconsistent if you tried to be. You are the one that is out of step with the Country, that is why Obooboo’s ratings have dropped so far so fast. Everyone but you caught on.

You plan to spend 12 trillion dollar over the next decade, and expect that everything will be just fine.

You are blind to plan and purpose, all because it’s no to bush/ yes to Obooboo. You need to read some history and gain some perspective on what’s been happening in this Country since the 30’s. Or you will continue to sound like a liberal shrill.

chas

Oh yea, and if you think just one party is responsible for where we are today, if you think one party or another has the corner on progress and good plans for America, you certain haven’t read history.

If you think that the 10th Amendment died under Bush, you are hopelessly lost. Your Representatives are now more about power, money and control and of course reelection to their seat.

If you think this economic downturn is all Bush’s fault, you need to study more. I have a book I could suggest.

chas

True beans, Chas.

I’ve got some news for Homer!

OBICHBOY IS OWNED BY WALL STREET!!!

Campaign donors in the 2008 election cycle -

Goldman Sachs $994,795
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
Time Warner $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
National Amusements Inc $551,683
UBS AG $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
IBM Corp $528,822
Morgan Stanley $514,881
General Electric $499,130
Latham & Watkins $493,835

Awesome, Dog!

I am NOT liberal, but I know we’ve all been Bush-whacked! I’ve been over it and over it here and no one gets it! So what if Obama got contributions from the financial institutions – they ALL do. The only difference is the GOP Senators and the Bluedogs have made promises they have to keep. Also, they’ve collected millions over the years – that’s what happens when there’s no term limits. They end up “buying” the Senator!

Get a clue people – if they win YOU LOSE!!!

Cracks me up that you guys are scared by the “numbers” the GOP is throwing at you! If we did it THEIR WAY, it would cost 4X as much!

Jimmy – for a professor you sure don’t contribute much here except hoots! Got brains?

Without the public option – Medicaid is going deeper into the red – much deeper! Is that what we all want? I think NOT!

You’re not a liberal?

Well, no I guess you’re not.

Liberals are WAY too right-wing for you!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

Carolynro – the GOP is way too conservative for the country now. I don’t know how that happened, but if we had some moderates it would make a world of difference. The group in there now refuses to cooperate or do anything at all. It’s NEVER been that way before. We need a mixture of right and left, and that’s the only way it can work. I never like to see too much of one party – but they have to work together. There’s never been a stalemate like this one. It’s just sad really…the right is too extreme.

Get off the floor Dog! Oh, nevermind – I forgot you are a dog – so you belong on the floor. Sorry.

So you are saying you disagree with what I have posted?

chas

You either stand for something or you’ll fall for anything. As has been proven here for many months now. The worst thing you can be called is a moderate, especially when that moniker is used to suggest that a left-wing Kool-Aid drinker is mainstream.

I’m an American and as such, I stand for freedom and liberty. What that means is freedom and liberty for all. Each and every one of us. More specifically, I don’t give a rat’s patooty what you do as long as it doesn’t interfere with my liberty and freedom. When it does, as with the current administration’s attempt to hijack my perfectly fine health care, that’s when I get riled up. And I think that it’s safe to say that that’s where all the controversy lies with this administration. Love them or not, fix what’s wrong and leave everyone else alone.

Chuckie, are you talkin to me? I don’t usually pay attention to what you post – sorry! Do you want me to?

Sterling, do you pay income taxes? Do you pay property taxes? Do you pay Social Security? Do you pay Health and Car Insurance? Why are you paying things you don’t believe in? Is that true?

I don’t think anyone could please you!

This is a good one…….LOL

SOMERVILLE, N.J. – An Illinois man has admitted banking more than $470,000 in paychecks from a New Jersey company he never worked for.

Thirty-five-year-old Anthony Armatys (AHR’-muh-tees) of Palatine, Ill., pleaded guilty Monday in New Jersey Superior Court to one count of theft as part of a plea bargain.

Prosecutors say Armatys accepted a job with Basking Ridge, N.J.-based telecommunications company Avaya Inc. in September 2002, then changed his mind. But the company’s computer system never removed his name from the payroll.

Paychecks were deposited into his bank account until February 2007, when Avaya auditors discovered the mistake.

Prosecutors are recommending a six-year prison term and restitution. Sentencing is scheduled for Jan. 8.

DOG – I can’t even look at that guy! He’s a cartoon character!!! LMAO!

I can’t pay attention to what he’s saying because he’s so funny looking.

Sterling, our form of government is set up for “cooperation” between the two parties. When one party won’t cooperate, it doesn’t work! It has worked that way since Day 1 – it’s about checks and balances. If one party gets too much control, then people who don’t agree with them feel their rights are being trampled…just like you do now! It’s the way I felt for the last few years of Bush’s presidency – I didn’t agree with anything he was doing, but I had to live with it. That’s just the way it is. Everyone will NOT agree on everything – EVER! We don’t want a dictatorship, so we need the two-party system – just like Canada and Europe and all developed countries.

Everything in “moderation” – it’s “give and take”! Extremes cause chaos – and could lead to civil war! That’s a stretch, but it happened in the 1800’s!

How does this guy know that a quorum is not there? I heard that the GOP was not attending important votes. I think the “yays” should get it by default. LOL I heard that they were just staying home. I think they should be fired for not doing their jobs. How do they get away with that? Their constituents should fire them.

Double post?

WeirdPress!

I guess that is how you would know, as you said to cap, I never post anything worth while.

Forget it, I was right the first time around.

chas

A South Korean stem cell scientist once hailed as a hero for bringing hope to people with incurable diseases and creating the world’s first cloned dog was convicted Monday on criminal charges related to faked research, but avoided jail.

The Seoul Central District Court sentenced Hwang Woo-suk to two years in prison for embezzling research funds and illegally buying human eggs. However, it suspended the penalty, allowing him to stay free if he breaks no laws for three years.

Prosecutors had asked for four years in prison, but Judge Bae Ki-yeol said the 56-year-old scientist had shown remorse and had notable achievements in dog cloning.

Bachmann is out of her mind – she needs meds! LMAO! Everyone knows that!!!

Sweetheart, that won’t work when the economy is in the toilet! The “free” markets have made it unaffordable for more than 50% of the population! That’s called GREED. Taxes will go up for EVERYONE to cover the “uninsured”….because that problem will only get worse! She doesn’t get it.

Her argument sounds good to people who don’t get it. Bush buried us in debt because that’s what the “right” does – spend like there’s no tomorrow and then deny it. Now we have to spend to get us OUT of his mess!!!

DOH! Bush started 2 wars with no way to pay for them, and he cut taxes when he should have raised them. The money he spent would have paid for the healthcare bill for everyone. The sad part is that his wars did more harm than good…and Libertarians know that.

Chas, if you believe you are right then in your mind you are! LOL

I bet you agree that we need to “step up” the war in Afghanistan. I say “bring our troops home”!!! My cousin, who was over there, says the same thing! NO SURGE!

DOG- post something that’s not from FOX News! That is NOT the real news. Jon Stewart has more real news that FOX! LOL

Deadliest month in Afghanistan – more blood on Bush’s hands – and let’s not forget warmonger Cheney! It’s almost criminal.

More blood on Bush’s hands? I think you’re just trying to pick an argument. This is your boy’s war. No one else’s. What do you have to say for the fact that so many soldiers have died since his general requested more troops? Is that Bush’s fault, too? That soldiers are dying while their president plays politics?

2 helicopter crashes were Obama’s fault – how so?

MORE AMERICANS WANT THE PUBLIC OPTION….

Inclusion of a public option has become one of the most contentious issues in the debate on healthcare reform — President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority, which seeks to cut costs, improve care and regulate insurers.

Democrats said Reid was still short of the 60 votes needed to overcome procedural hurdles and pass a bill with a public option. Republicans are against the measure, which they say amounts to a government takeover of healthcare which would hurt the private insurance industry.

But several polls in recent weeks show support for the option running at between 50 and 61 percent among Americans. Among backers is yoga instructor Suzanne Brownlow, from Atlanta.

“It’s almost impossible to get insurance. A public option would present me with an opportunity,” said Brownlow, 48, who has repeatedly been denied coverage since having a seizure eight years ago, and has been without coverage for year.

In Los Angeles, meanwhile, attorney Gary Minevich, 33, who is among some 46 million people in the United States without coverage, said he supported “nationalized” health care.

“I haven’t had health care in like seven years and I think that if he had passed this a long time ago I’d have been able to see a doctor,” he said.

How were they Bush’s fault? Geeze.

The worst part about the status quo is that people get tied to their jobs. They can’t switch jobs and health insurance policies anymore – because of the “pre-existing condition” clause in most insurance policies. If they develop a condition while working for an employer who covers them and then want to switch jobs, they can’t do it and be covered for that “condition” anymore! It’s sick!

Of course if you have a “gubbermint” job, like good old chas, why should you care about anyone else?

He put them over there! Doh!

Then create portability for insurance policies. Allow individuals to carry their insurance to the next employer. Why would that mean that the government needs to subsidize or control it?

I see FOX is talking about ACORN again today! Can’t they come up with a “relevant” subject? No other station thinks that is newsworthy – not even the right-wingers on CNN.

And your boy is keeping them there. Without proper help. Doh!

He’s starting to bring them back! I think FOX is trying to divert attention from the “REAL” news!

Al Qaeda is in Pakistan now – not Afghanistan. What are we fighting for???