Good morning Ms Alisyn,

Like it or not this will hurt recruitment in the military. Tolerance is a good thing, but it is lacking in some areas. Men in the Military are not tolerant in this regard.

I drive a Ford Ranger.

Good luck with your picks this week

chas

Good morning, Alisyn, Chas and all.

The repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ is just another Obama payoff to his campaign supporters and contributors, and it will hurt recruitment. Will the draft return next?

I drive a used car — does that mean I’m cheap? Or is the PC term ‘thrifty’?

Ahhhh, the lady’s in red.

Nice to see Mike. I always did like him on F&F.

chas

Won’t work in the military to well. Personaly I don’t want to know, Just another bone head decision
Chevy full size pickup truck.

I,m with you Lanna I always buy used to

I’m betting it is easier to catch a cat nap while flying than it is to cap nap while blogging.

chas

Morning Aliisyn~chas,BruceWV & Lanna. Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. ? What happens when you have a commander – or whoever get mixed up w/one of the fighting M/W. Who’s got your back? One can only hope he goes as slow to act on this as he has on getting more troops over there. Or most of all his Great plans! I say leave as is! Once again we are bowing down to the minority not the majority.
I drive a red Grand Prix! I love my car!

Also Michigan lost

Morning Alisyn & Gang.

Enjoy the show and red is definately your color…

The President’s decision to abolish Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is just another demoralizing and undermining of our wonderful military establishment. It comes from an individual that has no clue or understanding of the military mindset. I forget, what is his military record? He didn’t even dodge the draft like Mr Clinton. He just wants to dismantle it so he can push us to a one world government & military and after the recent Nobel Peace Prize… he can be elected King of the World. OMG this guy is out of control and he’s driving the bus we are all on… I think I want to transfer to the “Short Bus.”

I drive a Mustang GT… Used to drive a Buick Park Avenue.

Good Luck with your picks today…

Sorry about Michigan, but someone does have to lose. Too bad it was their turn.

chas

Feel like a moron—but what’s a Los Lonely Boy???? do i live in a cave??? should i know this????

I thought it was a kid who couldn’t find his way.

chas

Dumb on that one to A Wall

Chas, gave me nightmares!

Personally I’m sick of seeing M/W of the same sex having those scenes on T.V.! Gets a little hard to explain to the kids just what the heck is going on. I’d rather hear cussing, that’s bad also. I’d really like to have morals brought back into this country! With all this we can’t show a cross, Christmas tree’s. Enough! How far does America have to bow down to the others . What people do behind closed doors I personally don’t want to know, I sure in the sam hell don’t want it in my face!

What will same sex mariage cost taax payers? What about leting any two people file joint tax returns? Why should two gays be allowed to file a joint tax return? Why not two non-gay same sex individuals?

Good Morning everyone!!

How did our football picks go yesterday?? BTW: I drive a Cadillac…I suppose only lunatics drive those….figures….LOL!!

There have been gays in the military long before “dont ask dont tell.” I don’t understand the problem, unless it’s for homosexuals to flaunt there homosexuality openly in the military. Will it be used to provide military benefits for there partners, have them (partners) treated in military hospitals? I dont know but before action the government needs to see what the implications are, and with this Congress it scares me.

Los Lonely Boys are great! Been listening to them a long long time.

Ed

chas & A Wall & Bruce They are a young music band. Me I’m a country girl!

MG,

The games you picked yesterday are played today.

chas

There are plenty of people currently serving in our Military who are gay—-Why does knowing what someone does behind closed doors change anything about serving your country??? How are the two related in ANY way???? Why does this have to be an issue—-Why do we need to know this about a person in any job in any situation. Does this somehow make them speciall??? It’s crazy—-It only empowers them as a group to get special treatment. Then they will become victims, when all the hate crimes begin, because unfortunately there are those among us who can’t leave well enough alone and will do something moronic.

Oblitheringidiot is just that. This will only serve to bring out a boat load of problems within the military community. Not to mention how polarizing this can be to our country. I’m beginnning to wonder if this President realizes this.

My last post didn’t go through—testing

Good Morning Alisyn and to everyone on the blog this morning. Cold cold night and morning here in central PA. Frost is definately on my pumpkins.

Re: Gays in the Military, the anointed one is again talking out both sides of his mouth. Was Larry Sinclair in the audience by any chance last night? Just wonderin.

Can you just close your eyes & picture this~~~ Gay’s dressed in this~~ Country Proudest Uniforms made~~Re-done by one of those gay’s designers With flowers, silky this that & Pink~~Okay I’m making myself sick!

Good morning Alisyn, I think Obummer’s trying to tick off the conseratives for their lack of support for his healthcare agenda. Don’t kid yourselves he does not like opposition. Look what he does to Fox. Ford Escape is what I drive and love the vehicle.

Basically I said— there a currently gay men/women serving our country. someone please tell me how knowing what they do behind closed doors is going to change their ability to serve their country. Why do we need to know this about anyone—-what’s going to change once we know—-well it’s going to create a boat load of problems, then this Group will soon become victims—then another set of problems stems from that.

This president is certainly doing his darndest to create polarization in this country.

Right Ed the point is no one knows we operate under the presumption that everyone is normal. The thought of their lifestyle makes me gag so if I know I’ll keep my distance. Thats my choice

Is gays in the military a way to change his views on his support of gay marriage?

I drive a Dodge Intrepid
Hubby drives a Ford F150

Both are paid for—and when we replace, it’s never a high end fancy thing—-we can’t see spending tons of money on something that loses it’s value the second you drive it off the lot. As long as we get where we’re going.

I don’t know about you all, but everyday there is a major story with the anointed one. I am so tired of him being on TV, and on the news in general. This thing with the gays in the military is just another attempt to throw everyone in to talking about it over the major issue of health care reform which they are voting on this coming Tuesday.

Remember “watch” the right hand, because you just don’t know what the left hand is doing. It is a ploy to divert your attention away from the issue.

Chas,

Thanks!! Now I just feel silly!! LOL!!!

Slam dunk Mary

Keep us all distracted—-it’s becoming a well used tactic.

Alisyn, How about mentioning the Liam McCarty issue that his mother was diagnosed with Munchusen Syndrome by proxy. Instead of generally saying it is psych problems. Bet that would get things moving she is in danger of harming the kid!

Mary, or where it’s been

All of us have to keep up the pressure about the chairman mo/obama not passing this health care reform and now the cap and tax that has reared his ugly head. Just read in the paper that John McCain will probably side with the demwits and sign the cap and trade bill that they are going to sneak through the Senate.

Oh, and I drive a F-150, a 2001, and a 1994 Cadillac Seville that gets 25 mpg. I don’t drive them at the same time though.

Bruce,

Bruce

ewwwww!!! LOL

Think if these Gay’s come out of that there closet ~~~Will in fact be putting Big Targets on there back! Now if this should happen & it will we will be having them crying all over the battle field! Gee wouldn’t the Terrorist just love that!

Good morning all ….

I think all this stuff is being pushed through because he is pretty sure if he doesn’t shore up his base he is going to be a single term president.

chas

Bad timing Marine

LOL Bruce …. Naaa, he who bleeds with me in battle is my brother …..

Good Morning Alisyn,
The President is trying to change everything about America,
but the American people DONT want any change….just leave our country the way it is,
I drive a white Envoy Denali.
Good Morning everyone.

Good Morning Ali & all my FoxyFriends

Now this will stir the pot but it is MY opinion & I’m allowed to have it if you dont agree OH WELL
Dont ask dont tell…..,. will get alot of people killed I’m telling you once they are allowed to fairy flaunt around the real men are not going to like it one bit mark my words the number of freindly fire will rise!

Gay & Lesbians are an abomination MORE proof this Prez is ANTI CHRISTIAN

I will pray for you & you pray for me!

Those guys don’t look much like boys.

chas

Can anyone explain to me “Don’t ask Don’t tell? If they are asked,they don’t tell-what if they are not asked-can they tell.?

no! bajette
&

why do you think they made this rule in the first place!

Maybe this day I should just not blog

Grrrrrr ….. WordPress is at it again. Bajette, they are not allowed to ask

At one point in time, it was said African-Americans should not serve in the military and that integration would be detrimental. History has proven otherwise. There have been cases of gays serving in the military admirably. One presumes in time, history will prove integration of gays the same.

Although some would no more wish to serve next to someone gay or black, one presumes one would not wish to serve next to a Tim McVay.

Do we need more troops? After eight years, one would hope we’d more wisely fight terrorism with technology.

50% are still against government health care.

It will never be cheaper with the government involved.

chas

Regarding the piece about teen drinking, the mother hardly had a chance to talk and the young lawyer obviously has not been a mother to teens. Most people feel like she does until they actually have to deal with teenagers. Liberals are all about “it takes a village”, except in cases like this when they just blame the parents. There are many, many parents who are very vigilent, as I’m sure this mom was, but tragedy can still happen, as in this case. For her to talk about “big brother” was ridiculous. Teenagers’ brains are not developed yet, they don’t have good judgement, they don’t understand consequences, and they need everyone to be on top of what they are doing. I support this mom and what she is trying to do.

Alan Combs is so far left, I bet his car only turns that way too. I often wonder if he actually believes the garbage he spouts, or if he is just playing devil’s advocate to get noticed?

True that Dom.

Reminds me of someone else I’ve seen around….lol

chas

Hmmmmm …… makes you wonder doesn’t it Chas. Good morning BTW

Morning all…great to see Mike back on the couch…

Don’t Ask…Don’t Tell will not help recruit more to the military…all of the groups he pandered to in the campaign are lineing up for their payback…Unions, lawyers, SEIU, etc.

I drive a Honda Accord….

marine—

how true that all those on the battle field are brothers and you look out for each other—

My concern would be that the Enemy—Muslim Extremists—would get hold of this information about these men/women and that would certainly be detrimental to them. If this happens these guys/gals would be sitting ducks and if captured by the terrorists, it would surely cause mayhem and death to them. There is No tolerance of homosexuality in the Muslim world.

No one is punishing them—-those who are gay and wish to serve their country are already doing so.

I drive a huge 93 GMC conversion van fully loaded

Perfect Alan is on the radio at 1 AM …. almost the perfect time for him to be on …. 3 AM would be better

This whole argument about gays in the military is nothing more than a stall tactic for the decision that has to be made about Afghanistan.

This is what happens when you lose morality. Anythings goes without judgement

Good point, A Wall. It would also fuel their propaganda and probably be used as a recruitment tool for terrorists.

Marine, and who would listen to him any way? Have you heard some of his promos for his show? All he does is yell at the people that call in to his show. I agree he is so far left, even in traffic he makes only left hand turns.

well blocked now ?????

Love Dana Perino…

It is amazing how peoples quotes are taken out of context. Or people are staged for photo ops…e.g. docs in lab coats…I have never seen my doctors in lab coats in years.

Here, I thought he was stalling until he knew the outcome of the Nobel Peace Prize. Ha ha — So now that’s he’s won, it’s time to make a decision—–this is all just so pathetic. Our supposed leader is nothing but a self serving politician—–God help us.

ok that went through so
take 3
Awall There is No tolerance of homosexuality in the Muslim world.
Sorry hun it is a hot bed in the muslim community

If Alan were on at 3 he would be opposite Red Eye….

Bars close around tthat time Mary …. He may get a few “listeners”

I would like to nominate Osama Bin Laden for next years nobel prize. LOL

Well, we can tell where he stands by his frequesnt use of the words “I” and “me”. Chas, is that your doing that Ali is winning the pick race

Bye guys off to church. God bless!

More competition? Every game is within 3 point spread, how much closer can you make the games?

chas

No Dom. The blog is making her picks this year.

I’m just giving the games suggestions and counting the blog votes.

chas

Bye John

What were the games this week…missed them

This week’s Teams are:

WASHINGTON AT CAROLINA
ATLANTA AT SAN FRAN
INDY AT TENN
JACKSONVILLE AT SEATTLE

To ME-as of your comment of 7:11 maybe you should not blogg today.as for your answer 7:14 -I was always taught no question is ever stupid-if you don’t know the answer -ASK-
I never paid much attention to my BAD-so I never fully understood don’t ask’don’t tell-Now that I understand they could not tell if they wanted to-Then they should be given that right-However like any new right-it will be tough on them as they will be the pavers of the way-till someday won’t matter anymore.

4 tough ones Chas…like Carolina, Atl, Indy and Seattle

Seems R ick doesn’t think so….lol

He wants more competition.

chas

Baj, it is not a simple situation. How do they handle gay marriage, health care for the partner because that will be the next issue then where do they live…military housing if marriage is recognized. It is not just the one person….

DogOnCrack , agreed that was I was saying earlier also. All they will accomplish is a BIG TARGET on there backs. Good Grief can you see Pink uniforms!

And yes there have been M/W who have severed in the military already & now, All I see this is as a another feather in O’s cap! He can’t make up his mind on anything else.
I really wonder what is happening to the Basic Morals of this Country!

Defense of Marriage Act, Don’t Ask, Don’t tell POLICY,

However, see my 8:00….it is a hugh issue.

Ya know in this Gay thingy—Notice that now he is saying the word ‘ WAR ” when @ other times he uses different phrases. This guy has NO Morals just anything to get support @ the lost of Pride of our country.

Frank C~~~~~~~Baj, it is not a simple situation. How do they handle gay marriage, health care for the partner because that will be the next issue then where do they live…military housing if marriage is recognized. It is not just the one person….
More Tax payer $$$$$$.. Face it most of them in the military w/families are not going to want to live next to them!

Colleen, his backbone is made of Jello….

Comment by Frank C
October 11th, 2009 at 8:08 am

Colleen, his backbone is made of Jello….
Frank , Don’t forget the FRUIT!!!

Whoa, Ms Ali, I say yesterday that you look racy when you wear red, and now look at you! I’m flattered!

Uh, I drive a soft top 4×4 Jeep Wrangler, now 4-door [when I haven't taken them off!]; and I am proud of it – what does that say?

I drive a Chyrsler minivan?

Most of my military friends now do not live on post and ave very results oriented…will ask their feelings before next week in my smalll world poll….

Colleen

I was just wondering if anyone has seen a photo of President Obamba sitting at the desk in the White House, I’m thinking there is not a photo because he is never there! Thank you Truman West. Rio Rancho, New Mexico

Hi Alisyn, New at commenting here but just had to say if Obama changes this, the military will change forever. My nephew is in the Army and I will tell you now, not everything is told on what happens. If Obama keeps on changing things that should be left alone, we will all be hating life and feeling sorry for people in the military. He has already left our boys out to dry by themselves in Afghanastan, is he trying to kill all our boys & girls that our fighting for America??? GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!
Thanks for listening.
PS I drive a Chevy blazer (chevy #1)

Good Morning Everyone!
I drive a Saturn Coupe – what does that say?

On the California wild fires: I realize there’s a drought in California, but I wonder if there’s a link to the EPA, i.e. not allowing the forest service to clear brush?

I drive a 1998 Pontiac Sunfire. It gets me back and forth to work, the A/C works (important in Dallas!), and it looks OK…plus, it’s paid for!

I think the whole problem with “O” is that the election was rigged by “Chicago Politics”.

I drive a Dodge Charger R/T with the Hemi!!

Don

I drive a Jeep Wrangler. What’s that mean?

Hi All and Ali:

I drive a Dodge Charger and I don’t care what it says about me!

If I believed that don’t ask don’t tell was limited to the military I might have an opinion but I think it is a piece of a larger agenda as witnessed by the Education Secretary selection. Is any one else as sick of labels as a means of dividing us into groups as I am ?

Hey Don! Nice car. Mine is not Hemi- I would get into too much trouble with that engine!

I drive a Volvo…what does that say about me?

YEAH, Los Lonely Boys– they’re from Texas– San Angelo– home of the big giant roadrunner and Miss Hattie’s Cafe and Saloon!

Enjoyed the show, as always– and I drive a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

Means you’re squared away and cool, Susan – especially if you drive it off-road!

What does driving a worn out Mercury sedan say about you?

Cap, says you are a lawyer who loves the fresh air and frustrated having to be in the office and court room….

Minn ov Cin
Pitt ov ” Detroit
DAL ov KC
IND ov TEN
OAK ov NYG
TB ov PHI

I don’t agree with lifting the don’t ask, don’t tell policy while we are fighting 2 wars. I feel it will hurt morale in the military.

I drive a Hyundai Genesis. What does that say about me?

I see that identifying people by their race or gender or sexual preference just leads to more discordance between people because it seems that there is an inherent desire to receive special treatment or rules or laws that are attached to features of people rather than fostering what is inside of people. I think any group that stands up and says “Look at me” “I am different” creates the exact opposite outcome of acceptance than they were after. What ever happened to the “content of character” being the thing we all strive for? I have seen how destructive labels can be for a person. Labels create a pre-conceived or self full-filling prophecy that interferes with personal growth. I choose to learn what is inside.

Yo, Frank C.: scary that you know me so well from my ride!

The more I hear about Obama the sicker I get. What he’s doing to this country is pathetic and then give him the Nobel Peace Prize….give me strength , he hasn’t done a single good thing yet.
I fear what America will be at the end of 4 years.

BTW Mom of 4 and I drive a Rav 4-Toyota
Have a great day F&Fs

Hey Cap: Hope you are adjusting to “empty nest” .

my husband and I drive a Subaru Forester and a Toyota Tacoma. So what’s that mean? I’m a little perturbed that on the show you said to check the blog and there’s no info.

I drive a Ford F250 Diesel and a VW Jetta TDI for work as I drive a lot of miles. What does that say about me?

Morning cap.

chas

CAP, we have been here too long my firend….

Now we know why McCain-Palin did so poorly…Mc’s campaign managed did not respect her….

Thanks Frank, that would interesting. One of Bro’s ( retired from Service , was in Army but work for Air Force), up in Alaska, his son is still in the Air Force. We have talked about this & I know he said that there is NO tolerance up there for it @ all!

The don’t ask don’t tell policy should be left as is. The war on terror needs to be the issue at hand not the politically correct crowd trying to feel good about their selves.

I drive a Toyota Camry and bet it says pragmatic and well educated just as driving a Honda does as I also own.

A big green Jeep. And I’m NOT a redneck.

Wow, thanks for remembering, carolynro. Fortunately, my younger boy is still here [and becoming a rock star!], but we can’t get over our older one being gone. I try to be mature about it and put on my war face, but many see through it. Rough time. He’s in Zion this weekend, camping with some chums, about which I am delighted. I hope they stop for Bumbleberry Pie in Springville! [He drives a ragtop Jeep Wrangler too!]

Big booms this morning….Fort Bragg telling everyone GOOD MORNING….and bad guys beware…

Yo, chas

Good morning!

I drive an Infiniti QX4. It’s an SUV, and it was discontinued after 2002 (sadly).

Yeah, Frank C., maybe – but also not long enough.

My wife and I have had separate bank accounts for 20 years…kept me from writting checks without putting it in the checkbook when I was traveling out of town…continued it when we retired….

Not true Ms Aly. Eileen and I both have our own accounts and joint accounts. What’s mine is mine and everything else is ours.

Works just fine for us.

chas

Cap, how is wife holding up without oldest one?

I drive a Jeep Rubicon, Alisyn.

But chas has said it right – his formula works for them, but he does not say that any other family’s formula is not right for them. Ours has always been joint, because I am too incompetent to manage our money or pay our bills.

We have separate but not separate accounts. Both are joint with right of survivorship. Is that what it is called, Cap? This works well for us.

Everyone has to work out that sort of thing that best suits them.

And you have to really think it through because as most of us know money is one of the leading causes of divorce.

The number on cause, of course, is getting married.

chas

Good Morning Ali, Mike, Clayton and fellow bloggers…:)
Instead of wasting his time with don’t ask don’t tell Obumma should SEND the troops McCrystal reqested… Either send in more troops or get our boys OUT ….. What does O know about running a war????? I am tired of seeing his SMUG face on TV every day…..He’s an empty suit… Can read speeches others write for him (With the aid of the teleprompter) but has accomplished NOTHING!!!!

I drive a BMW 330XI and have to say it’s the best car I have ever owned. (Hubby bought it for me because he said I deserve it)

That should read the number one cause.

chas

Hi I wonder what an HHR Chev says about my personality?

Garold Mills

Pir ro is damaged goods and should not be heeded about anything, especially DNA evidence and its possibility for exonertaion. Recall her great work as a prosecutor: “Je ffrey Desk ovic was convicted in the murder of 15-year-old fellow student Ang ela Cor rea. He proclaimed his innocence on several occasions, but was denied a reopening of the case by then-DA Pir ro. In 2006, the current DA authorized a DNA test which led to Deskovic’s exoneration. Had Pirro agreed to a relatively simple test, Desk ovic would have been freed years before his actual exoneration. Instead, she maintained that the test wasn’t necessary, and Desk ovic spent 16 years in prison for a crime he did not commit.” Wikipedia entry that all know to be the facts.

Pir ro is of the school that if the cops arrest someone, they are guilty, and any effort otherwise is simply lawyer tricks. “Fair and Balanced”? Ha!

[Separations purposely inserted!]

Love her being “Judge” A TV Judge….what a joke…Can I be a judge I know how to spell LAW.

Frank C., my wife put on a strong front because she knew she needed to be my support, but I saw through it, so she need not do so now. She is suffering with me, all the while being proud of his accomplishments and what he will accomplish. But it is a change which brings permanent pain which is not lessened by the old “that’s life,” or “that’s what you raised him to do, grow up and be his own person,” or any other “grow up, you Jerk” kind of things. I have never known a better human being than he is, and I miss him terribly. As does his mother.

Good Morning Ali, MIke, Clay and fellow bloggers,

Obumma should send in more troops as per McCrystal’s request and not waste time with “don’t ask don’t tell.” He wins a peace prize for Reading speeches that others have written. What a joke…
He hasn’t accomplished a thing…….

I drive a BMW 330xi That hubby bought me…

CAP, I am sure it left a giant hole in the household.

I can’t remember how to get to the “after the show show.”

WOW,,,she can sing also

ry this

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/live.html?chanId=11

1993 Toyota Paseo; gets like 38 MPG but it is not long for the world

Brr, chilly today with no let up in sight for the cold.
Will the Eco-commies be saying we need to build more coal power plants this time next year ?

Had fun today…have a great week all and hope to see everyone back here next week…

Carolynro,

Regarding your 8:19 post, I am in agreement with you. I am sick of labels that divide us.

It’s been a blast all, thanks for the company and thoughts. I’m sure Ms Aly thanks you for the help with the Office Pool. Have a great week.

Good luck with the pool this week Ms Alisyn and have a terrific week.

chas

Chas~~And you have to really think it through because as most of us know money is one of the leading causes of divorce.

The number on cause, of course, is getting married.

chas
If I had it to do again~~Never would be the correct & honest answer.
I have agree, I do the $ here.

Bye Chas have a great week…

Everyone have a good week, it was a real pleasure today with all of you, much like what it use to be, remember?

So goodbye for now and hope to be with you all next week.

Carolynro,

Regarding your 8:27 post: Well said.

Hello All,

My wife drives a Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder convertible and I
drive a Mitsubishi suv Endeavor. She loves convertibles and I need
a bigger vehicle.

Wait, who was the winner of the Nobel for Worst Car ?

I lost my Internet since 8am just started working again,
Heres my picks I posted yesterday,

Carolina over Washington
Atlanta over SF
Indy over Tenn
Jacksonville over Seattle
hope we do as good as last week.

Hey did I miss F&F’s picks???

I agree with Sal…
Carolina
Atlanta
Jax
but I got to go with Tenn

Good Morning Eileen,
Jimmy…. Indy and Tenn should be a good game.

I read about the study on the internet and found that it was a study done by UC Davis. For me that says it is flawed from the start. First flaw, it is California only drivers that were studied. Second flaw, it doesn’t take into consideration that California is NOT what the rest of the world follows. Third flaw, UC Davis is so far left that they have no idea what the real world is like.

I am well educated, have worked from Florida to California, from Idaho to Panama, from the Americas to the Middle East and have 40+ years experience in Quality Management. In my experiences in California, I have always found that California was always 5 to 10 years behind the rest of the world in knowledge of the “real world”.

I would like to know what owning a Hyundai Genesis says about me and what owning a Hyundai Veracruz says about my wife.

I drive a Toyota Camry – what does that say about me?

I drive a 2001 PT Cruiser, one of the first ones out, and I LOVE my car! I have had a ball with it and been to lots of cruiser car shows with it. I even drove it from north of Houston to Kansas City and raced it with my cruiser friends once, have driven it around the racetrack at Texas Motor Speedway and driven it to car shows in St. Louis and birmingham, Alabama, Oklahoma and Kansas. It is silver, has a triple pinstripe of red, charcoal and black and Team Dynamic sport wheels, and I plan to drive it forever. I was an adult for years until I got my car and then regressed into the wild youth I never had! LOL Still cruisin’ at age 66 in my cool car.

I actually don’t give a flip what my car says about me- I paid for it, I like it, it’s PAID FOR and that is all that matters. I don’t drive it to impress anyone else;I drive it because I could afford it, it gets good gas mileage, holds lots of stuff and it is CUTE. I guess it says I am an independent cussed poor old Texas woman and it would be right. Like football teams, I pick cars that are cute and wear a pretty color!

HEY I CANT FIND PICKS!

I drive a Lincoln Aly, and she is wonderful, paid for, runs like a top, and is totally SAFE…indestructible, as a matter of fact. Nice & roomy, rides down the road nice and comfy like, gets abt 22mpg, in the city, has all the amenities, and I, like retro, LOVE my car. Her name is Dimples, and we make quite a pair, for sure. Both a little old, a little slow, but able to still maneuver the road w/o making every single person so angry it ruins their day, hum? I also have Pearl, the Caddy…and I love her too, but one of the kiddo’s is driving her right now. She is actually my fav, but, so it goes. lol Yep…love my old cars, for sure………….. Needless to say, the Caddy is also comfy w/all the amenities. Yep ~~sigh~~

Thank you so much for giving a voice to the youngest members of our society – Little Liam McCarty.
Liam and his Father should not have to repeat the same procedures in Italy that he already went through in America. What trauma for that poor little boy to have to endure, and additional financial burden for the Father. The Italian System must honor The Hague Convention and return Liam to his rightful guardian, Michael. His Mother, who was deemed a “danger to him” and removed by “Emergency court order” by The Italian Social welfare system, is now allowed to have contact with him? And she continues to alienate him from his Father…. How can that be? Who is being paid off at the expense of a child’s mental well-being? With the Italian PM being indited for Corruption (and other assorted illegal activities) I can see where the whole political/legal system could be broken and damaged. I do hope the Honest citizens of Italy will stand up to the corruption occurring in their country and raise a voice for this Child as well as Italy. And I encourage the US State Department – Hilary Clinton – to investigate Liam’s case and do the same.

Where is this man’s congressman to help him get this child back? It seems like his local congressman would go to bat for him with the state department to get back this child. I am glad you are giving this publicity to help, but why isn’t our government doing anything to help? God knows they spend money foolishly on everything else. Maybe if the father was “gay” he would get some support! Very sad case.

My bad my friends, I neglected to post the picks for this week:

Carolina– Everyone
Jacksonville– Everyone
Indy– Everyone

Atlanta, Aly, D ave @ San Fran, C layton, R ick

Sorry I forgot to post them.

chas

Crews dredging a polluted stretch of the upper Hudson River this year battled high water, old logging debris and unexpected levels of PCB contamination that slowed progress.

But as the first phase of one of the most costliest and complex federal Superfund projects wraps up this month, regulators say results are generally positive and show dredging can work. They are already preparing for a far more expansive second phase, which would clean up 40 miles of river and likely push total project costs over $700 million.

Dredging began in the rural area in May after decades of argument over how to deal with tons of PCBs that flowed down the river in 1973 after a dam was removed. Upriver General Electric plants in Fort Edward and neighboring Hudson Falls discharged wastewater containing PCBs for decades before the popular lubricant and coolant was banned in 1977. PCBs, or polychlorinated vinyls, are considered probable carcinogens

retro…they are worried abt the don’t tell don’t ask, in the military. They don’t care abt this child and the dilemma in Italy. THEY would barely care in America, as domestic probs, are not considered important, ya know. And why would the Italians care, if they can bleed the fam dry, holding the child ‘hostage’. I am over the top incredulous, but not at all surprised. Not at all! lol We continue to pray hard for this child and his father, that he is returned safe to his fam here in the USA. lol grrrrrrrr

Listened to you this morning.
We drive a Dodge Charger. What are the characteristics of one who owns a Charger?
Thank you.
Jean

If you own the Chargers it means you had a bye this week.

chas

The unofficial results of this weeks Pool are

Alisyn–3 – 1
C layton–2 – 2
D ave–3 – 1
R ick–2 – 2

Which makes the results:

1. Alisyn 16-4
2. R ick 13-7
3. D ave 12-8
4. C layton 10-10

I believe these to be correct. Ms Alisyn remains in the lead. Great job those who help her on the blog here.

chas

State Police say they are piecing together information to understand just how a bus carrying a Utah high school band veered off a southeastern Idaho interstate, killing a 33-year-old band teacher and injuring dozens of student musicians who hours earlier had swept a competition.

Police identified the person killed in the Saturday wreck as Heather Christensen of Spanish Fork, Utah, a woodwind instructor for the American Fork High School band. All but one of 44 students who received medical care at Portneuf Regional Medical Center in Pocatello following the accident had been released by Sunday.

Hospital officials say the remaining patient, a girl, is due to be released on Monday.

I think President Obama is starting all these projects to make it look like he has accomplished something in office, and if they don’t get done, he can blame someone else for them not getting done.

My picks for this weeks games
3-1
Carolina over Washington, won
Atlanta over SF,won
Indy over Tenn, won
Jacksonville over Seattle, lost,
week 1. 2-2
week 2. 1-3
week 3. 3-1
week 4. 4-0
week 5. 3-1
13-7

Sal,

We had the same picks except for Seattle. I expected them to win, but sure didn’t expect a blow out.

I was thinking more like 3 or 4 points.

chas

Chas,
I didnt know Hasselback was playing,
if I knew he was playing I would of taken Seattle,
if we had the same picks except Seattle….then you did great…. 4-0.. not bad my friend.

Just lucky again.

I happen to catch a sports piece that said he was on for the game. So the choice was an easy one.

I was more concerned about the Washington pick. They controlled the game for 3 qtrs.

chas

I know Chas, that game had me worried.

I am okay repealing the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy . Soldiers deserve to know if the guy standing next to them at the urinal is a pervert. In fact, if a gay person winds up in the military and he does NOT make his sexual orientation known to everyone around him, he should be prosecuted. Furthermore, once they make their depravity known, no person of his own sex should be required to share a bathroom or barracks with that person. This, of course, would mean building separate accomodations for the gays. One door could read “Men”; another could read, “Women”; and another could read, “Homosexuals”. This would, cost more taxpayer money; but the liberals want to repeal the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy. They should explain to the American people why we will have to spend still more of OUR money as a result of one of their dimwitted ideas.
In fact, Amercan society itself is already very open. Many gay persons OUTSIDE the military are coming out of the closet . Helen Degenerate even has a talk show. I believe businesses who have public restrooms should be forced to provide separate accomodations for gays. This would cost small businesses a fortune, but what’s the big deal? The Feds are already out to destroy small business, so why would this be any different? Or, patrons of small business can sue businesses to have accomodations built. That way our public insurance that we’ll have to pay for can foot the bill. Why is THAT bad?

I DO NOT RUN AROUND SAYING “I AM HETROSEXUAL”…DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HOMOSEXUAL HAVE THE NEED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCE. I HAVE A SON WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND I DO NOT THINK HE CHOOSES THAT LIFE STYLE OR GIVEN A CHOICE WOULD HE CHOOSE IT. WE LOVE HIM FOR HIMSELF NOT HIS SEXUAL PREFERENCE. WE ALWAYS HAVE HOMOPHOBIC AROUND AND FOR THAT REASON I FEEL SEXUAL PREFERENCE SHOULD BE PERSONL DECISION.

Santa Claus is real. So is the tooth fairy. Mothers should teach their children the virtues of cocaine use and alcohol dependence. Sex with squirrels is normal and perfectly acceptable. We should try to understand Bin Laden; because he is a citizen of the world. Maybe we can get him involved in group therapy or sensitivity training. That’s all he needs. Poor Osama–so misunderstood. Obama is really a moderate. He’s misunderstood too. All he wants is for Americans to be rewarded by their initiative and effort. He’s going to take care of all of us. All we need to do is lie back and let him shine on us. Do you think we should change the date of Christmas to the president’s birthday? You don’t think that bunch of religious fanatics will object do you? Let’s make sure we save those rare, endangered minnows, however. Just ignore those pesky farmers.

We’ve Figured Him Out
Ben Stein, Spectator.org

Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry to get his socialized medicine bill passed?
Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic truths:

The American people in their unimaginable kindness and trust voted for a pig in a poke in 2008. They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

They ignored his anti-white writings in his books. They ignored his quiet acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, Jeremiah Wright.

They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a student. They ignored his ultra-left record as a “community organizer,” Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being touted as a scholar.

Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack Obama is a super likeable super leftist, not a fan of this country, way, way too cozy with the terrorist leaders in the Middle East, way beyond naďveté, all the way into active destruction of our interests and our allies and our future.

The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus bill — a great idea in theory — was really an immense bribe to Democrat interest groups, and in no way an effort to help all Americans.

Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do.

The American people already know that Mr. Obama’s plan to lower health costs while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of something that never was and never will be — a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free society. Either the costs go up or the free society goes away.

These are perilous times. Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health care. It will be joined by controls on our lives to “protect us” from global warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man.

Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise and will stop him if he delays at all in taking away our freedoms.

There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America.

Liberal Here here! Well said.

An unusually strong October storm is bearing down on California, prompting residents in areas burned by recent wildfires to prepare for heavy rain that could send mud and debris flowing into canyon and foothill neighborhoods.

Residents of La Canada Flintridge, near the barren Southern California hillsides that the massive Station Fire scorched this summer, shoveled sand into bags Monday. The heaviest rain was scheduled to arrive Tuesday afternoon and evening.

The Pacific storm will drop 3 to 6 inches in Santa Barbara County, where an 8,700-acre fire burned in May, before it moves on to the San Gabriel Mountains, where the U.S. Geological Survey recently warned of massive debris flows near the areas burned in September, forecasters said.

Good Morning
If they push this Healthcare through its over for this Administration,
and Every Politician who votes yes on this Government takerover of our Healthcare,
because 84% of the American people like their Existing Healthcare.

There well may be a revolt, too, Sal.

http://tinyurl.com/kwqzrs

I drive a Dodge Ram Pickup truck. Dodge is, of course, a Chrysler product; and Chrysler went bankrupt. Does this mean I’m over the hill, obsolete, washed up?

lol, Roy! You could be worse! You could be like GM and government-owned. But then again, if you’re like me, you already feel like your government-owned. At least on paper.

Good Day Alisyn and friends,
My husband and I love FOX News. Where would be be without you guys. We pray daily for you all and the truth. Where do we post slogans for FOX and Friends? We have come up with some good one. Keep up the great work, all of you Alisyn,and the cute guys, Gretchen,Steve and Brian.

Fanatics we are for FOX and friends, we know the truth and we win in the end!!!!

The Los Lonely Boys!!!! OMGoodness, How far is Heaven…. Thats the bomb. The Don’t ask don’t tell What?
God DID NOT create homo’s. It is a person’s choice. Have not you heard the story of Sodom and Gomora?

Streisand is a brilliant political thinker. So is Michael Moore. September 11th was a right wing conspiracy contrived by George Bush. America is too rich. We need to be more like Cuba. Only racists don’t like socialism.

Liz has changed her name to Liberal. LOL

Talking Points: AHIP Report on Senate Finance Committee Bill

· This is a self-serving analysis from the insurance industry, one of the major opponents of health insurance reform. Even the company hired to produce the report has issued a statement saying they produced a skewed report that analyzes only part of the bill because that is what the insurance industry paid them to do.

· It comes on the eve of a vote that will reduce the industry’s profits. It is hard to take it seriously. The analysis completely ignores critical policies such as:

Ø Grandfather policy that requires no change in the health insurance plan that you already get at work.

Ø Tax credits for those who need help purchasing health insurance

Ø Special policies for young adults, who AHIP claims will be hit hard, including tax credits and the choice of a special “young invincibles” plan that has a low premium.

Ø A health insurance exchange that will increase choice and competition and put downward pressure on costs.

Ø Reinsurance and other policies proven to ensure that no single group bears unexpectedly high costs.

Ø Flawed analysis – especially on the tax on insurance companies that offer high-end policies. Most economists conclude that will begin to lower costs, not increase them.

Ø Few health insurance plans – and over time fewer – will have premiums high enough to be affected by the assessment.

Ø The individual responsibility requirement in the Finance bill is sufficient to cover 94 percent of Americans and create an insurance exchange with over 20 million people, according to CBO.

Don’t forget to do your “REALITY CHECK” — skewed facts are “misinformation”. You know where to find it!

Hey Jimmy (absent-minded professor) – post a link to that article by Ben Stein. It’s hard to believe that Ben Stein would write an article that sounds that ignorant – he writes much better than that. Thanks!

Intel Corp. has been asserting for months that the personal computer business is rebounding from its deepest slump in nearly a decade. Its stock jumped late Tuesday on signs things are picking up faster than expected, despite a few lingering trouble spots.

Intel reported after the market closed that its profit and sales both dipped 8 percent in the July-September period as spending by corporations remained weak, a trend that has dragged on throughout the recession and probably won’t ease until next year.

The price for Intel’s chips also fell. One reason is that “netbooks,” little laptops that cost a few hundred dollars and have limited functions beyond surfing the Internet, have caught on but aren’t big moneymakers. Another is that PC makers have slashed their prices on full-sized computers, and aren’t willing to pay as much for the chips that go into them.

Liz,

Good Morning to you. I missed you. How was the seminar?

I must read your comments more thoroughly later. If your seminar was regarding insurance, I know I must. I’m off to do a little IT research and then work.

Welcome back.

Kev,

I missed you too. I went to a teaching seminar. It was very informative and challenging. I’m not sure I want to go into teaching, but it’s a possibility. I’m exploring a few other options, but I’m not sure yet which way to go. I’ll let you know when I decide.

Have a great day!

Ben, Intel had a stellar earnings report. The economy is definitely on the mend. Looks like the stock market wants to soar today.

Limbaugh already down a vote in bid to buy Rams

BOSTON – Rush Limbaugh’s bid to buy the St. Louis Rams ran into opposition within the NFL on Tuesday, when Colts owner Jim Irsay vowed to vote against him and commissioner Roger Goodell said the conservative commentator’s “divisive” comments would not be tolerated from any NFL insider.

“I, myself, couldn’t even consider voting for him,” Irsay said at an owners meetings. “When there are comments that have been made that are inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive … our words do damage, and it’s something that we don’t need.”

Limbaugh has long been a hero of conservatives and villain to the left, thriving on his place in the political spectrum while establishing himself as one of the most successful broadcasters in history. But the NFL tries to avoid controversy, as Limbaugh learned in 2003 when he was forced to resign from ESPN’s Sunday night football broadcast after saying of Philadelphia’s Donovan McNabb: “I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.”

Goodell repeatedly distanced the league from Limbaugh’s statements on Tuesday, calling them “polarizing comments that we don’t think reflect accurately on the NFL or our players.”

Patriots owner Robert Kraft referred questions about Limbaugh to the commissioner. Texans owner Bob McNair said anyone who meets the “normal criteria” is a candidate to own a team.

“But our vetting process is very thorough,” he said.

NFL Players Association head DeMaurice Smith, who is black, urged players to speak out against Limbaugh’s bid, and several have already said they would not play for his team.

Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank echoed Goodell’s comments and noted that the league and the union had a similar stance. Blank also said he wouldn’t expect Limbaugh, if the deal went through, to tone down his lucrative radio show to avoid running afoul of the league.

“I find that highly unlikely,” he said.

Prospective owners must be approved by 24 of the league’s 32 teams. Irsay is the first owner who has stated unequivocally he would reject Limbaugh because he made a habit of “demonizing individuals.”

“I met Rush only once. He seemed like a nice guy to me and all those kind of things,” Irsay said. “It’s bigger than the NFL. As a nation, and as a world, we’ve got to watch our words and our thoughts. They can do damage.”

Talking to ones self is a clear sign of mental illness.

Then maybe you should stop talking to yourself and talk to Glenn Beck. But before you do, I would suggest reading his book, “Talking to Idiots”. LMAO!

Nice to see your back running your socialist world again. Too bad Obummer doesn’t use the vetting process. O r haven’t you gotten that far in your socialist agenda? LMAO!!!!

Members of NAMBLA are great candidates for Safe Schools Czar. My dog is suing his vet for malpractice. I’m paying for his lawyer; but when our annointed president gets the public option passed, I won’t have to pay for it again. Golly, I wonder who the nice people are who will pay for it. People who don’t want to forget about those pesky farmers to save the endangered minnows have never taken time to get acquainted with the minnows. Everyone would love them if they talked to them more. Liz and Kevin are different people.

The Democrats are going to win big in 2010.

Maybe NASA can help the pesky farmers with all that water they find on the moon. Thank God they have their priorities straight

Too bad Fox doesn’t use the vetting process to get all the moron shows off the air! LMAO! How many frogs has Beck boiled lately?

All the pesky farmers have the Republicans to blame for their water woes – and they know it! Obama can’t fix everything in the first 9 months. The Bush mess is going to take years to clean up…but it’s off to a good start.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2009/July/Many-Doctors-Fear-Gov-Takeover-of-Healthcare/

You got that right Liberal! LOL Can’t wait!

Well Sterling, that’s because Medicare was run by morons under the conservatives – they didn’t know how to run it so they wanted to privatize it. They let fraud and waste run rampant. That’s why it’s so important to elect well-educated reps. Only morons are left in the Republican party, but they will be gone next year, so don’t worry….and there are more doctors who are FOR the public option…and still more who are for single-payer.

The economy is definitely on the mend. The unemployment rate is not nearly 10 per cent. That rumor is just something cooked up by Glen Beck. Our spending will never lead to out of control inflation. All this talk about what a lousy president poor Jimmy Carter was is just a right wing smear campaign. We didn’t really have runaway inflation and runaway unemployment and runaway interest rates. Carter’s big spending really deserves CREDIT for the recovery that happened after Ronald Reagon took office. Reagon was to blame for everything bad that happened during the Carter years. Republican ineptitude often causes harm retroactively. I’m sure all you liberals know that already.

Anyone who works in the Obama administration is a demon, according to the morons on Fox. Remember, their goal is to destroy the Obama admin., but they WON’T be successful.

Part of that plan is character assassination of all the “czars” in the Obama admin. Take one thing they said out of context and tear them apart. Doesn’t fly with most people – only morons!

The unemployment rate is DIRECT FALLOUT from the last administration. We knew it was coming – couldn’t be avoided after the mess they made – but you people will never get it will you? LMAO

http://tinyurl.com/yg6vn5m

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=720284

This is a test. I can’t get through this morning.

http://tinyurl.com/yj8xxvd

Well how about that?! ANYWAY…

Liz, the old “We inherited this mess.. . ” line can only work for a while. I think it’s already run out of steam. Bush didn’t spend nearly a trillion dollars on PORK that isn’t taking us anywhere except into debt, eventual catastrophic inflation, and a ruinous overall economy. I remind you again that the “stimulous” bill was only the beginning. We’ve had the omnibus bill, the bailouts, and now the health care bill which looks like it will cost us another trillion dollars. It isn’t Hannity and Beck who concocted the laws of economics. They didn’t invent supply and demand. Economists tell us that when anything is in great supply, the value of it goes DOWN. Our money supply has NEVER been higher. We’ve HAD to increase it to pay for Obama’s pork and his socialistic ideas. Now the value of our money is likely to reduce farther than it EVER has in the history of our country. On top of everything else, the stimulus package has NOT reduced unemployment; and when it DOES go down, it will likely be because the economy is doing what it usually does anyway, with or without government help. Please come at me with real facts that COUNTER what I’ve written here. I have been talking rudimentary economics. I’ll even give you some basic history. The biggest disasters in the history of economics have been precipitated by hyper spending. There’s a book you should read. It’s called,”Don’t Pee on My Leg and Tell Me it’s Raining.”

http://justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html

I can’t wait until Halloween. The Democrats are going to treat everybody. I’m giving everybody a pound of pork. I’m going to trick everybody too. Everybody pay for their own treat.

Our shining president is going to save the world. That’s why they gave him that prize you know. He is really great at kissing the a–’s of Iran, Korea, and the terrorists that want to blow us up. All that
a– kissing is going to bring results. Now that he has explained to all those misunderstood people in Iran and Afghanistan how wrong America has been and how sorry we are, I know they will like us better. I’m going to put a tooth under my pillow; and our beloved president is going to fly into my room and give me a dollar.

All the folks on Fox are morons. (Gee, what’s a moron). They want to assassinate Character. I wonder who Character is. Somebody better warn him.

I love watching Fox and Friends (and FOX NEWS in general). You guys give me hope that America will one day go back to when we were a real country run by honest to goodness WHITE MEN. I think our country needed Fox News wo we can reclaim our country. You guys are great…keep up the AWESOME Work.

Love ya,
Mikey

Hi,

WHITE POWER! Steve, Brian, and the hot blonde…you guys are our heros (we are a group of about 30, National Front members…and we watch you every morning).

Love ya,
Jay V (aka. Mikey)

They voted on a bill that hasn’t even been written yet.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55425

Liz, Glen Beck’s book isn’t Talking with Idiots. It is “Arguing with Idiots” which is what all of us on this blog are doing when we argue with you. If I didn’t know better I’d think that Beck had talked to you and got his inspiration for the title of his book.

Mikey is really Liz. She’s trying to line us all up with racists. Typical. LMAO.

That is what these pukey liberal Democrats do. If they can’t say anything credible, they call names. Or they say you are a racist. They have no good rebuttals at all. They know they’re wrong. They don’t care. They have degenerated to such a point that they don’t care.

I love Castro. I love Chavez. I love Ahmadinejad. I love Kim II Sung. They are all such good people. I love you. You love me. We’re a happy fam-i-ly with a great big hug and a kiss from me to you. Won’t you say you love me too? I think President Obama wrote that song. There’s a congressman whose name is Barney. He loves everyone too (except for people like Liz).

We should put all the gay men into one combat company, call them the Spartans, they would probably be ok

I love the way you guys displayed the two white teens who burned that kid in Florida for 5 seconds and then displayed the black teen for 10-15 seconds by himself…mmmm…I love it. Let America see what savages look like–crazy monkeys on crack. That black teen probably forced those white kids to do it. WHITE POWER…no more monkeys!

Roy, there will always be naysayers in any successful administration, which is what this one is shaping up to be IMO. I think this blog has gone totally moronic now – it’s attracting “white power” racists, the worst kind. I also don’t like all the homphobia, even though I don’t condone being gay. Homophobia is h-a-t-e-ful and disgusting. H-a-t-e the sin, not the sinner. Isn’t that what Jesus would do? (remember, you can’t spell out the word h-a-t-e or it won’t post, so put dashes in it) And don’t be h-a-t-e-f-u-l, like Limbaugh and Beck. It only comes back to bite them in the butt. Did you hear Limbaugh tell ABC that he “spawned” Beck? LMAO!

It’s Liz again. (yawn)

No Blogger – I’m pretty sure Beck is trying to tell you how to argue with him! Look at his credentials – he doesn’t have any! He’s not qualified for most jobs, let alone the one he has. I guess you can call him “lucky” if that’s what you want to call it. I call it a curse.

He can h-a-t-e all he wants, and so can Limbaugh. I feel nothing but pity for them – and their followers – whom Beck describes as “zombies”! (He told that to O’Reilly the other night – hilarious)

Blogger – what are your credentials? What makes you qualified to assess the healthcare plan that’s not even closed to finished? Talking points maybe?

Blogger/Liberal/Cade Simone/Caver – how many aliases do you have? Maybe they are all your relatives?

Yes, I think you are right, Liz–about the anti gay remarks anyway. I must agree that h-a-t-i-n-g. anyone, regardless of what they do is wrong. And, again, you are right that we should h-a-t-e the sin but not the sinner. Homosexuality is like any other sin. However, being repulsed by the sin does not make me a homophobe. The “phobe” part of the word suggests FEAR. I do not fear gay people. I simply am repulsed by their behavior. I do not believe it is h-a-t-e-ful (are you serious about this?) to call them perverts. Perversion is simply straying from normative behavior. I believe that being gay qualifies one for that label; since fewer than 1 percent of the American population calls themselves gay. Homosexuals have tried for quite a long time to convince us all that their behavior is “normal”. They even cited “research” to suggest that it is in the genes. Only later did we discover that the the “researcher” was a homosexual himself and that his research was flawed in its methodology. Another crowd points to famous people like Peter the Great and Michelangelo and says they were gay. I spoke to a professor of Russian history who laughed at their contention. Peter the Great was married–TO A WOMAN! It seems they seize on anything at all to give legitimacy to their behavior. I am rabidly against “gay rights” because I believe it further erodes traditional family structure which is in enough trouble already.

Sure took you long enough to figure out Liberal was poking fun at you. You were dishing out high-fives and everything. LMAO!!!

Liz, what are YOUR qualifications for assessing a health care plan that isn’t even close finished yet?
What are YOUR credentials? Are you a student? Big deal. I’m a college graduate with a degree in Public Service, of all things.

http://bit.ly/37hTYW

http://tinyurl.com/yghezu8

Incidentally, the thoughts of someone touting white power to this extent is SICKENING. Blogger says this person is you, Liz. I honestly hope he is right. It is sad to consider that a creep like this exists in this world. Pieces of trash like this give conservatism a bad name; just as Van Jones and Bill Ayers don’t do anything for liberal reputations. Extremism on either side of the isle needs to be discouraged.

It’s hilarious to see the liberals lose their minds, just because an outspoken conservative with the means to do so, wants to buy an NFL team. Honestly, with the health care debate heating up all over again, don’t they have better things to squabble about?

http://tinyurl.com/yfo85jw

Oh no! You mean those evil rich white people are, gasp! Democrats? LMAO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/ygpryek

Doctors going Galt? Hmmm, interesting question.

http://tinyurl.com/yjmbjxx

This just in: The Stock Market Soars; it is Bush’s fault!

The stock market being up—a good thing for us who have 401Ks. Perhaps we won’t fear opening up those statements. For those unemployed, not a good thing—it was on their backs, their job losses—but I’m sure the jobless already know that

I don’t understand what you mean – on their backs. Can you clarify for me? Thanks

Carolynro,

I apologize. The companies on the Exchanges did better because they cut expenses–they cut employees.

Yes, didn’t we all! When there is no work. There are no jobs. I don” consider that being on the backs of the employees. I see loss of jobs being a factor of economic downturn.

What do you think about government limits on what can be paid?

Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove. Eighty-five percent (85%) of Democrats approve. Seventy-eight percent (78%) of Republicans disapprove

as do 61% of voters not affiliated with either major party (see other recent demographic highlights).

That post was from Rasmussen Oct 14. 61% of people not affiliated with a political disapprove of Obama.

Carolynro,

Again, I apologize. I believe I read you are an Employer. It is an economic downturn. What else can one do but lay off Employees.

My experience has been major corporations ship their jobs overseas for cheaper labor. When we ship technology jobs overseas, …we’re in trouble. With any industry, I’m sure that is true.

Government limits on what can be paid? A loaded question you ask. Do we spend to put people back to work? Would that not boost the economy?

Kevin,

I believe she is talking about the entitlement Czar. The guy who figures out if a CEO is worth his bonus package.

chas

No, Kevin…the small number of jobs being “created” with stimulus money are temporary and expensive. True job creation is born of economic activity. Jobs come from building or manufacturing things. Not from “make work” jobs like the stim plan is doing. Remember Clinton’s 100,000 Cops program? As soon at the grant money ran out, the state municipalities had to find money to keep those cops and most of them let the cops go. No permanence in jobs created just to say there are jobs. There has to be an underlying reason- demand – for workers to be hired for long term jobs.

You might also consider the number of jobs from other countries that are here. My brother in law had not worked in CA for two years until he was hired by a French company. It does go both ways.

I think it might be also accurate to say that the US tax policy and US union wages have also driven jobs over seas.

Have you heard the recent stories about teachers and postal workers who are either under disciplinary suspension and postal workers for whom there is no work who are warehoused and are being paid full wages and benefits to do nothing all day? Yep…your tax dollars at work!

Carolynro,

Respectfully, did we not have eight prior years of corporate tax cuts and still jobs were shipped overseas?

Kevin, Now we have 10% unemployment and spending in to obliavion. Out of control spending will not fix anything.

Jobs have been going over seas for years. Clinton signed NAFTA when he was president. Bush tax cuts put more money into the treasury than Clinton’ tax increases did. The problem was the spending was higher. Corporations are beholden to the stockholders and are expected to show a profit. It is up to corporations to accomplish that. We live in a global economy and I wish I could remember the site that discussed how the US benefits from jobs coming over from other countries as much as other countries benefit from American companies using over seas employees. I will post below something from the HufPost.

“Companies from almost all other industrialized nations are not required to pay taxes on international revenues to their home nations. Instead, they operate under territorial tax systems in which they pay corporate income taxes only in the country where revenues are earned.

In stark contrast, the U.S. employs a worldwide tax system — earnings are taxed where revenues are earned, and then taxed again in the U.S. To compensate for this double taxation, which places American companies at a disadvantage with foreign rivals, the U.S. has created a system of accounting rules and deferrals meant to help maintain a level playing field. It is this system that is under attack. The current proposed changes to the tax code for American global companies would risk much of our economic recovery to date, putting in jeopardy our jobs, the ability of American businesses to compete, and the health of our economy — something that benefits all of us.”

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-j-castellani/putting-american-jobs-com_b_299263.html

Then you have to examine the “corporate tax cuts”. Corporations pass on the cost of taxation to the customer so when corps are taxed it costs the people who buy products as the corps pass on the tax hikes to people.

Read the whole text about how they plan to fix it – makes a lot of sense!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/obama-tax-haven-plan-read_n_195702.html

Looks like congress is going to sock it to the insurance companies – and enforce anti-trust laws. It’s about time!

Kev,

This recovery looks like a repeat of th 2001-2002 recovery – interest rates at or near zero, companies trimming fat (and employees), shoring up their bottom line – and then they started to hire. It’s a pattern that will repeat and next year we will start to see it come to fruition. We are out of the recession but many won’t feel it till sometime next year. As for the stimulus not creating jobs, that is completely false. There are many new industries popping up and they are hiring like crazy – one right here in Michigan is building a plant to manufacture those windmills (or whatever they are called). I know about another solar company right here that is beginning to hire auto workers for auto-related “green” jobs that will be permanent.

Carolynro is not an expert in business – she doesn’t follow what’s happening on Wall St. and most likely gets her “talking points” from Fox. That’s why I’ve been here trying to get these people to look “all around” for info. LOL

Have a great night. I won’t bother responding to the “morons” here (sorry) but that’s what they are!

Limbaugh is out! NFL doesn’t want to have to deal with him. I don’t blame them!

This recovery looks like a repeat of the 2001-2002 recovery – interest rates at or near zero, companies trimming fat (and employees), shoring up their bottom line – and then they started to hire. It’s a pattern that will repeat and next year we will start to see it come to fruition. We are out of the recession but many won’t feel it till sometime next year.

As for the stimulus not creating jobs, that is completely false. There are many new industries popping up and they are hiring like crazy – one right here in Michigan is building a plant to manufacture those windmills (or whatever they are called). I know about another solar company right here that is beginning to hire auto workers for auto-related “green” jobs that will be permanent.

This recovery looks like a repeat of the 2002 recovery – interest rates at or near zero, companies trimming fat (and employees), shoring up their bottom line – and then they started to hire. It’s a pattern that will repeat and next year we will start to see it come to fruition. We are out of the recession but many won’t feel it till sometime next year.

As for the stimulus not creating jobs, that is completely false. There are many new industries popping up and they are hiring like crazy – one right here in Michigan is building a plant to manufacture those windmills (or whatever they are called). I know about a solar company right here that is beginning to hire auto workers for auto-related “green” jobs that will be permanent. These companies are getting “grants” to get going. We are so far behind Europe it’s not funny. If you get a chance, take a look at Volkswagen headquarters in Germany. Awesome – and all green!

Carolynro is not an expert in business – she doesn’t follow what’s happening on Wall St. and most likely gets her “talking points” from Fox. That’s why I’ve been here trying to get these people to look “all around” for info. LOL

Have a great night. I won’t bother responding to the “morons” here (sorry) but that’s what they are!

The stimulus is creating many new “permanent” jobs and only $100 billion of it has been spent so far (by Obama). I think we should use more stimulus (like China did) and our economy would start growing at a much faster pace. I know about a few companies who are hiring like crazy for “green” automotive jobs right here in Michigan. There will also be many new alternative energy jobs coming here. We need to catch up with the rest of the world in that area.

Roy, the person you referenced is most likely Blogger! I think Blogger has several aliases, but who knows. I don’t care. I would never post h-a-t-e-ful stuff. I don’t h-a-t-e anyone. I just dislike opinions that don’t make sense, and I don’t like to see people who don’t know any better being led down the wrong path by unscrupulous journalists and politicians!

That’s what everyone wants a goverment the picks who can own what and who can turn a profit and who can speak and can report the news. Does this sound like 1933?

Lizzie You have a horrible way of disliking other opinions… You call people names … And that’s your way … You really are pathetic…. When you are not here on weekends everyone here gets along just great!!!!

Comment by Just Another Blogger
October 14th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

It’s Liz again. (yawn)
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That abt says it all, and I am off to bed, speaking of yawning. Nite all…scan on past, ya know, and save yourselves the grief! lol

Merle,

Did pretty good during the week also.

Just have to ignore and move on.

Little to be gained by responding to the clueless.

chas

Hello Friends,

I love the way you guys displayed the two white teens (on 14 Oct) who burned that kid in Florida for 5 seconds and then displayed the black teen for 10-15 seconds by himself…mmmm…YES…I love it! Let America see what our savages look like–crazy monkeys on crack. That black teen probably forced those white kids to do it. WHITE POWER…down with monkeys!

To quote another one of our FOX NEWS heros…the great Rush Limbaugh:

“You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray (Dr. King’s assassin). We miss you, James. Godspeed.”

“Let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: Slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.”

Rush understands America, FOX NEWS understands the need for us to spin the clock back 200 years and put these monkeys in their place.

Godspeed FOX NEWS, Godspeed Fox and Friends

FOX NEWS, Fox and Friends lover 4 ever,
Jay V (aka. Mikey)

Next week, Microsoft is releasing Windows 7, a slick, much improved operating system that should go a long way toward erasing the bad impression left by its previous effort, Vista.

If you’ve been holding off on buying a new computer, Windows 7 will be a good excuse to get back into the game. And if you’ve been weighing a Mac versus a Windows PC, then you should know that “7″ makes Windows more attractive, though not a clear-cut choice for everyone. Windows is now easier to use and better looking than it was before, while maintaining its core advantage of cheaper, more diverse hardware.

However, most PC users should not take the release of Windows 7 as a call to action, or feel that they have to run out and buy the software for use on a computer they’re planning on keeping. The upgrade will most likely not be worth the time or money, much less the effort of hosting a Windows 7 “launch party” as Microsoft suggests.

Corporate communists and white supremists – that’s what this blog is coming to – so pathetic!

Lindsay Graham was asked by his constituents (the new Republican party?) at a Townhall meeting if he was going to change parties? What morons they are! They want him to join the winners! LMAO! I hope he turns on them – that’s what they deserve.

Hey chas, who’s clueless? Do you head up your white supremist group? I know you want to be just like Jefferson.

Hey Merle, I just call it like I see it. Do you think white supremists are not morons?

Dog on Crack – are you the white supremist?

Nobody takes Beck or Limbaugh seriously – except white supremists. That’s a known fact. I’ll show you his expertise on Afghanistan sometime today! LMAO! Do you know who the FOX staffer is who comes up with his material? I can’t wait to find out. Would you post the name of his ghostwriter? Thanks!

Beck’s solution to the healthcare crisis – taken straight from his book….

Beck goes on to write that a trip to a Walgreens health clinic is “about one-sixth the cost of a trip to the emergency room,” and that the medical care is “usually given by a master’s-degree-educated nurse practitioner.” That’s well and good, but there is also a pretty strict limit on the types of medical care you can receive at retail health clinics. One such outfit, MinuteClinic, makes clear that they treat only “minor” illnesses and injuries, and states explicitly that if you need X-rays or sutures, you will be “referred to another care setting.” For Sal Fasano, whose son needs heart surgery, a trip to Walgreens isn’t going to solve anything. Nor will it help someone in need of chemotherapy or an MRI.

A 2006 study by the Department of Health and Human Services found that the five most expensive health conditions to treat were heart disease, cancer, trauma, mental disorders, and pulmonary conditions, and that these five conditions alone accounted for 31 percent of the total growth in health care spending from 1987 to 2000. To what extent can retail health clinics defray the expense of treating these conditions? Beck doesn’t say — indeed, it doesn’t appear as though he even considered it.

To sum up, Beck’s “free-market” solution is divorced from reality and completely unserious, which is pretty much what we’ve come to expect from Beck when it comes to health care and a host of other issues.

Go to Walgreens.

No, seriously. That’s the “free-market” solution to rising health care costs that Beck offers in Arguing with Idiots. From pages 258-259:

That leaves those who attack the American health-care system with only one main argument: quantity versus quality. Sure, America has the best health-care system, they’ll say. For those who can afford it-but too many can’t.

Finally, an argument with some truth to it. For all of its unacknowledged virtue, our health-care system does still leave too many without coverage. The real question is what can rectify that more efficiently: a free market or a government monopoly?

Answer this question: What three letters can get you quality medical care for about half the price of a typical doctor’s appointment and provide a 90-day supply of most prescription medications for less than a movie and popcorn, all while giving you the opportunity to pick up Cheetos, Mentos, Oreos, Pepto, and probably even this book-o.

The answer is W-A-L. You can get all of these things at your local Walgreens and/or Wal-Mart.

Walgreens is leading the way in the development of retail health clinics, which means that you can basically see a medical professional right in the pharmacy. Wait times are minimal, the cost is low, and you can grab a Whatchamacallit bar on the way out.

I don’t want to put my health in the hands of the “new” Republican party – do you? I bet you use Walgreens all the time crackdog, since you refuse to buy medical insurance. Is that your solution?

Watch “The Joy of RX” – the fat baby story…..

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

Looks like Gretchin doesn’t like the fact that seniors will be getting a $250 check. Does she dislike old people?

Sorry DOG – the White House won’t give morons the time of day – Beck loves talking to them though – they keep close tabs on his ramblings. Why should they call? He talks to them anyway!

I like how they bleeped out some names Beck mentioned on the show while he was by the red phone! He will stop at nothing to smear anyone won’t he? Don’t forget your daily “REALITY CHECK”. Just scroll down a bit to clear up your “misinformation” from Fox…..

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/

http://tinyurl.com/yjkp74s

Good morning Erik…brrrrrrrrrr, in Ohio! lol Winter is upon us for sure. I wonder where my winter coat got to? Must be here some where, but sure didn’t want to need it so soon. lol

Kevin are you around?

Hi Dog and Gini How are you fine folks this morning?

I’m fine Carolyn. Read your blog, and it was GREAT! I would recommend it to everyone here, who is interested in an informed view of the ‘news of the day’. My puter is also running much better after the puter lady fixed it. Sooooo nice! lol

Good Morning to everyone!!! How is everyone this cold rainy day?? Its gonna be a LONG winter I’m afraid……YUCK!!!

Gini, it’s a wee bit nippy in WV too.
Thank God for central heat!

Carolyn, been better, been worse.

I did some research and it turns out it was Racheal Maddow who started the rumor that Limbaugh said he was glad that MLK’s assassin died. I have the link somewhere…just a minute

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/d-s-hube/2009/06/04/maddow-slimes-limbaugh-phony-quote

I hope Rush sues the snot out of these libelous creeps on the left.

OReilly put his research staff on the case and they could not find any of the “racist” comments that the left are saying Limbaugh made. Most of the people on the left are too stupid to get his sarcasm and are so angry that they have no sense of humor. Go Rush….

GD corporate communists that provide heat to us!

Carolyn,

It doesn’t surprise me that Maddow started it. Seems that most over on that channel are extremely angry libs, and extremely frustrated too. Actually what surprises me is that Olby didn’t start it!! LOL!!!

I got on a local lib call-in talk show on tv the other night. I called to defend rush and the host insisted that Rush said that stuff so I sent him the link the next day. It is amazing how adamantly they stick to the lies told on left wing shows but refuse to hear anything that refutes the lies.

Looks like we might get some G’itmo prisoners here in Michigan. That is how desperate we are for jobs here!

So what? We all know Bill O is a liar.

chas

Hey MetalGirl…..we just have to keep punching away at them. I am just waiting for the Obama fueled tax increases to start hitting them in their pockets…they are in for a real surprise. And the inflation……that will be the job killer. I read another 1.3 million are to lose their job benefits by the end of the year.

Yes, Dog …all libertarians and conservatives and republicans are liars. Did you see someone is challenging Rangle for his re-election? Hmmm must be at least one liberal lied about something!

Let’s all have a vote. How many of you believe the “white power” person is me? Simply type “Blogger” if you think it is me. If you think the “white power” person is really Liz trying to equate us all with racists, type “Liz”. It won’t take much work at all.

Hi Chas. I was talking to Kevin last night. I had a thought this morning about the tired old “evil corporation” rap that is used by the left.

Corporations are not created in order to create jobs; they are created to make money by providing goods and services to customers to make a profit for the shareholders. So many Americans think that business exists just to provide jobs. School districts do not exist to provide jobs to teachers and support staff.. They exist to provide a service… I could go on and on. But, this is why so many people use the corporate communist cliche- they have it all wrong about why companies or the military or the public institutions exist. The same people who howl about “corporate greed” are invested in the profits of these organizations via their retirement funds. Many public employee retirement funds are invested in the same companies that they rail against. Quite amusing to me.

Liz who? Yawn….oh you mean the walking cliche? Done with that

WOW $250.00 What are they ever going to do with all that cash. Now they can retire in comfort. Do you think Liz, that’s a bit much? Maybe Obummer could tax it to bring it in line with the poor folks.

I vote don’t play the game

I have work to do to keep the company moving along so we can provide services to our customers and keep the heat on and so that our employees will be able to stay off unemployment for awhile!

Right on Bruce

Well Carolyn, some people think the the Government makes money too. There is no end to the misconceptions about real life.

And John, of course they will pay taxes on the $250. Which is not nearly as moronic as taxing your tax rebate which was actually your tax money in the first place.

chas

Blogger…I don’t read our friend, so don’t know at all. Try to keep my standard very high, and this grp at Aly’s standard, is high. Just scroll on past that which has turned out to be unworthy of comment, hum? Don’t care at alllllllllllllllll, you see, hum? Already tried to chat with, was unsuccessful, was attacked w/o notice, so gave up trying to ‘make friends’ with. Too many other worthy comments to read, to waste my time on insanity, for sure. lol
Erik…my puter is FIXED now, and I am sooooooo happy!!! I can actually jump around fr site to site w/no probs. Sooooo nice! Should have had the puter lady over a long time ago. I have her on speed dial now, and the kiddo’s are not allowed on my puter any more. Yep… New ‘ram’ and ‘firewall’ in place, and I am smilin’ huge…
Hi John, Bruce and Metalgirl…

Good morning Chas. Am caught up on your blog as well, another great read. lol

Right Chas. I learned this best when I was on the school board. The employees in general had no idea where the money came from to pay their compensation. They figured the government just has the money. And that was my whole point about these “stimulus” jobs. Most of them go away when the grants run out. When the highway is finished or the bridge or the any of the public projects are finished – so are the jobs. Only the brainless don’t see that. I remember listening to a peed off man at the laundromat one day screaming about how Bush cost him his cop job….he had no idea that he got the job from the grants from Clinton’s 100,000 cop scheme and that the money had run out when Bush was president. He was totally not clued in about the fact that the job Clinton “gave” him was temporary. It happened all over our state….the local municipalities could not afford to fund the cop jobs when the grant ran out so they lost their jobs and blamed it on Bush. Of course, it was all his fault

I wonder if Rush will sue? It will be interesting, whatever he does. Of course, I have mused all along, that ‘they’ were in the basement listening to Rush, instead of doing the ‘business’ of government. Was kidding of course, but would seem was closer to the truth than I thought. No wonder nothing can get done, when the focus is on the Rushes and SNL, hum? YIKES, but we are living thru a very strange moment, for sure. While the world watches, and laughs at the antics of our new admin. Whoa…our new prez is sure ‘making friends’ hum? PARTEEEEEEEEE time, at the WH, so why wouldn’t he be ‘popular’…oh! That’s right…he lives on AFI, and visits his fam occasionally, for a photo op. Forgot, with all that’s been going on in my life. YIKES…..and we wonder why nothing is getting done, and the crazies seem to be getting a foot hold. YIKES again! lol

Good Morning Gini, Chas, MetalGirl1, Carolynro & John.
Glad you got your computer fixed! I mailed my letter early to Santa for a new one

Whats this about service men being arrested for flying the America flag?

Sorry, Carolynro, but most stimulus jobs are coming from “grants” to start new private industries with jobs that will last and grow. Where are you getting your info?

I find it amazing how ignorant the comments here are. You don’t understand how the economy works and you don’t understand what a “tax” is. You’d rather support corporate communism. And you certainly don’t understand how the stimulus works. Sad.

Well, John – Gretchin was complaining about it this morning. I don’t think she likes old people. She was disgusted that the “taxpayers” have to shell it out. Sad.

Carolynro, if I were you, I wouldn’t be investing in any healthcare companies at this point. They are about to lose their ability to co-conspire to rip off the American public. They’ve been violating anti-trust laws for years with the blessings of the Congress. Now the Obama admin. wants it stopped!

Well carolyn,

The sad fact is most of these people who proclaim them self an “expert” haven’t a clue of what goes on in the real world.

But I’m hardly in the mood to correct errors today.

Have a great day.

chas

Chas: here in Michigan 5 billion of the 8 billion stimulus sent here is going to grants, which expire eventually, around 1 million in loans and 400, 000 to contracts Only 20 percent of the money has been applied for.

Blogger, you just admitted it was you! LMAO! Nice try, but when you’re trying to change opinions you wouldn’t do it that way – at least I wouldn’t. I already know there’s a lot of racism here just by the fact that you guys listen to and quote Rush and Beck.

chas, please try to correct my errors. You’ve never tried, therefore you can’t!!!

I don’t know where you get your figures Carolynro, but I know Granholm is going for as much as she can get – and she’s trying to woo new business here. She did a bad job keeping Volkswagen here – they are leaving for good. My neighbor is moving to Virginia – and Volkswagen is buying their house for $50K more than it’s worth.

This will no longer be the auto capital of the world, that’s for sure. But we will have a lot of new suppliers and gov’t owned GM and Chrysler. Thanks GW Bush!

HI Colleen! How is it in your neck of the Michigan “woods”?

Carolynro, I can’t believe you just found out about the Gitmo prisoners. They’ve been talking about that for months. I thought you’d be up there picketing with the rest of them. You weren’t????

You Michigan people are in the boonies aren’t you? I figured as much. Lots of ignorance in rural areas – mostly it’s from non-exposure to “life” in general.

Chas you can not correct ignorance.If it wasn’t for business Gov would not exist. Some people are just too dumb to understand that. How pathetic!

Hi Colleen…of course, the new ‘ram’ and ‘firewall’ doesn’t keep comments fr getting eaten. How are you? and how is your fam? We are all fine here, and finally getting rested up. Total exhaustion, ya know. lol YIKES! lol And it’s cold here, YUK! lol grrrrrrrrr….

Brr Carolyn. So not ready for this! Looking @ that weather map with all that snow out there! Still trying to find my gloves!

Grants expire after a new business is profitable – naturally! Why don’t you apply for one? I bet you qualify in some category. You can thank me later!

Snow in Michigan – where?

John, you really need an education! Obama has grants available. Apply for one! It’s never too late!

I can’t relate on your level – bring it up a notch.

I know…my bird bath is frozen!

Good Morning you good people,
Gini, Chas,Carolyn,Colleen,John,Bruce.

Yikes Carolyn…boo hoo!!! Nothing is ‘frozen’ here in Ohio yet, and I am not looking forward to frozen thangs, either. Our new little heater works, however, to take the chill off the house in the a.m. w/o turning the furnace up. A good purchase, I think. lol

Which is why I no longer try John. Some people just can’t take a hint.

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” James Madison

chas

I pity your students. They do not stand a chance after your pathetic teachings. God help them cause you screwed them up.

Gini, your getting all the rain we had—sorry See there talking about the flag. I have a flag in my front windshield. Been there since 9-11. I even went through Canada with it there! Hubby put his flag he brought home from 2 tours of Nam ( Special Forces ), after 9-11. We since took it down so it wouldn’t do more damage to it. Would of loved for a neighbor tell him he couldn’t fly that American flag! Pretty sure there would of been a brawl!

Good morning Sal! brrrrrrrrrrr here, and you? brrrrr there as well, I suspect. lol YUK…I also need to find my winter coat and gloves. Halloween party tonite, for the grandkids, so am looking forward to that. Am going as a Queen, hum? More specifically, a Lady of Means, fr the Medieval period. My DIL is a costumer, so I have a gorgeous silk costume to wear. Toooo fun!

Chas,~~~~” upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”

In this sad world today, they have no respect for each other nor themselves, least of all the country they live in.

Yep…was raining in Okla, so that weather usually get here in Ohio, in two days Colleen. Sis calls me, and warns me of pending bad weather. ha! lol We are headed thataway, on the 29th. Taking dad home, ya know. lol

I don’t however think, Colleen, it is the majority that doesn’t care. It’s a very loud and socialistic/marxist grp, trying to insinuate itself on the general population, yet again. We are abt to find out if they will be successful. 2010 is right around the corner, and we will see how determined the citizen is, hum? lol

Hi Sal: Nice to see you this morning

Gini, you as Queen~~~ now that’s fitting . that sounds like a really fun time. I always had fun making the costumes for my sons. To bad we can’t post pic’s here. Decorating my yard this weekend.

The six yr old twins are excited, and as we will be gone for Halloween, I don’t want to miss their little party. lol Yep…toooooooo fun, for sure! lol They are so cute, and little, and still excited abt it alllllllllllllllllllllll. lol Refreshing, in this contentious world we live in today. lol

Sadly, this is what happens when you push Freedom FROM Religion instead of Freedom OF Religion.

This is what happens when you vote for what’s in everybody’s wallet but your own.

This is what you get when you never grow up to solve your own problems and rely on the Government to do everything for you.

We have become everything that the Founders worried against.

chas

We will be gone, but I think my son will be here to hand out candy, and my other son will be here w/his new fam, to trick or treat. I am going to definitely decorate the porch for Halloween, even tho we will be gone, and hopefully someone will come and water my plants, while I am gone!

I used do Halloween up pretty big but don’t feel it this year. Most of the kids go trick-or-treating over at the university dorms so it is not always worth the fuss anymore.

Gini, I HOPE that if what has happened in the last 9 mos to this Country will have opened up the eyed of many Americans & pray the they also would want to put the pride back into this country.Sadly the way things are going with he/said & she/ said as far as all this talk of race on every level is going to really rip this country apart along with all of the other front issues.I would really like for all of this P/C crap to be gone with the wind.

We fly our flag every day, as do our neighbors. I can’t imagine what would happen if someone complained. We live in our own house, however, not an apt complex, where strange rules might pop up. I am glad they won their viewpoint, and the flags are now permitted. Diversity does not equal being patriotic or unpatriotic. The controversy over the flag is ridiculous, of course. If ya don’t like our flag, then don’t look at it, hum? OR, move to a country where you like ‘the flag’ of, hum? Ridiculous, and only possible in a country where pep have much, but possibly have no appreciation for any of it. Fat and lazy, perhaps? and uniformed as well……perhaps. lol Very sad, and so it goes.

Hey Gini, tell ya what I will go ask my brother if I can borrow those big fans they use for fires to blow all the bad weather out of your way, so your trip will be clear sailing!

People are definitely engaged Colleen…now, will they vote in 2010? or will they stay home, again. We are abt to find out, so buckle up! We are on the ride of our lives, this time around, and it’s a dangerous game we are engaged in, for sure. It’s always been a dangerous game, and now it is more so, w/our new admin, and their very strange view points, and a congress run amuck, with no interest in what their constituents think abt the ‘issues’ in front of us all. Yep…we need to stay diligent, for sure…..

We are trying to scoot ‘homeward’ in between weather fronts Colleen. YIKES! lol ha! Will definitely let everyone know how it goes. lol

Chas, So very sadly true.~~

Sadly, this is what happens when you push Freedom FROM Religion instead of Freedom OF Religion.

This is what happens when you vote for what’s in everybody’s wallet but your own.

This is what you get when you never grow up to solve your own problems and rely on the Government to do everything for you.

We have become everything that the Founders worried against.

chas
When will be stop bowing down to the all of minority voices? Sure they have a right to say how they feel. However not have all of us loose the very foundation this Great Country was built on.

Oh, for goodness sake. And, Columbus is in the news today!!!! Burlington Factory prob doesn’t like this publicity, hum? YIKES, and the crazies are off and running, yet again. Never go there to shop……too expensive, tho they advertise they are a discount store.

Well, where ever I go in this college town people are shaking their heads about what this administration has done to everyone. Normally every one flies their liberal flags but I have not talked to one single person who is thrilled with this guy. To a person, they are all dismayed. And I get around…

Just wait til the university and public school instructors get taxed on their health plans!

And where are all the media watchdogs who used to compare campaign promises to the actual actions of the president? Where is all the transparency? Obama promised health care plan negotiations would be broadcast on C-SPAN.

Months ago, the negotiations for moving G’itmo detainees to Michigan began and there is no national coverage of that. Today is the public hearing on this plan that was promoted by the prison months ago.

In my neck of the woods, be it small the American Flag flies all over. Had a laugh @ my one neighbor ( he must of had one to many that day ), he had went out to put up a new flag, fine-problem was he also has had a Christian flag on the pole also, I look over & he had put the Christian flag up first! We got him good!!!! He is a vet also.

Colleen, do you mean all minority voices except Michael Steele and Michelle Malkin? LMAO!

Hey chas – can you tell me what the population of the USA was when the founding fathers wrote the constitution? C’mon – give me some numbers!

Are you in Lansing, Ann Arbor, Mt. Pleasant, Kalamazoo or higher? How about Marquette? I bet that’s it!

Go visit Picture Rocks – beautiful! But of course you know that. I like the Yoopers!

Carolynro, If I heard right on the news here that the Midland/Gitmo is a no go. That prison is closing real soon & all 300 employees will be without a job. Me I think they should stay right where there at. These people are terrorist & shouldn’t be able to set foot in this country. However sadly once again we have to please the wimps out there. Said before if someone was to hurt a member of there family, these softies would do anything to protect there families.

Well, this should make you all happy! Too bad we lost a lot of time during the Bush admin. – they were in denial.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091015/sc_afp/britaincanadaarcticclimateenvironmentscience

I think the prison that is closing is in Standish, Michigan. And what I can find today is that there is a community hearing on it today.

I think the prisoners should be sent here to save those jobs! After all, they are not very dangerous. A lot of them were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Whatever happened to the 12-year-old that they held onto for 6 years?

I think they should be sent here to save those jobs. After all, they are not very dangerous. Most were just in the wrong place at the wrong time – like that 12 year old that they held onto for 6 years. Pretty disgusting Cheney!

Anyway, Carolynro – they can’t get to you or yours in Marquette! Don’t worry!

I’m checking right now, Carolyn. Think you are right abt Standish though.

Critics of a proposal to move detainees from Guantanamo Bay to the Standish Maximum Correctional Facility made their case before a largely sympathetic audience in suburban Detroit.

GUANTANAMO DETAINEES
More criticism of Gitmo transfer proposal voiced

ROCHESTER, Mich. (AP) – Critics of a proposal to move detainees from Guantanamo Bay to the Standish Maximum Correctional Facility made their case before a largely sympathetic audience in suburban Detroit. Monday night’s forum was organized by the Michigan Coalition to Stop Gitmo North, a group of state residents who oppose moving detainees from the U.S. military prison in Cuba to the state prison scheduled that’s scheduled to close Oct. 31. The Detroit Free Press reports some panelists warned that the transfers would put Standish, the Mackinac Bridge and other targets at risk of terror attacks. Guantanamo Bay houses approximately 200 suspected al-Qaida, Taliban and foreign fighters. The prison provides about 300 jobs. Officials in Au Gres and Arenac County have endorsed moving the detainees to Standish to temper the scheduled closure’s economic impact.

How are they in danger of terror attacks? Would that be because the prison is easy to escape from – or maybe because Standish would become a missile target of Afghanistan? Both ludicrous! LOL If it saves Michigan jobs, I’m all for it.

Hi Gang,

At the present time, I’m feeling a little cynical about ALL politicians. It seems that everyone, including Republicans, are unbelievably partisan. It’s all about winning, and pride, and ego. I honestly wish we could do away with the party system. I’m not sure it is good to have parties at all. We should simply have men and women who want to vote their consciences in the interest of America. We want to associate various positions–both good and bad– to a party. Conservatives, we think, have to be Republicans; and liberals have to be Democrats. Patriotism, some believe, is something Democrats don’t have; and racism is something that many want to lay only at the Republicans’ door. Everyone has a cheap accusation to level at someone on the “other side”. Everyone has a game to play. Frankly, I don’t want to “vote” in this little “election” either. It doesn’t matter who this person is. If he or she is real ( the Whitepower for Fox nut), we have our work cut out for us AS AMERICANS! If the Whitepower for Fox” blogger is one of us, that blogger is too STRANGE to be telling his or her opinion ANYWHERE! I suggest they get professional help!

WASHINGTON, July 24 (UPI) — Some Democratic lawmakers from Michigan are viewing the Guantanamo detainees as a possible means of boosting their state’s finances, legislators say.

Several Democrat members in the U.S. House and Senate are floating the idea of housing detainees from the U.S. detention facility in Cuba in Michigan prisons set to close because of the state’s budget crunch, The Hill reported Friday.

The move would save or create jobs in a state with the nation’s highest unemployment rate of 15.4 percent.

I hear you Roy – white supremacy is ludicrous and divisive – as Rush Limbaugh found out!

Unfortunately, we are stuck with the 2-party system – and all the corruption that goes with it. The way I look at it, you have to pick the party with the most honest/ethical people – and right now that party is the Dems. During the Reagan years it was the Repubs. Seems like no one wants to be “vetted” by cable TV, so no good candidates are emerging anymore! Too bad!

Me don’t like Rush Limbaugh. Me don’t like Fox news. They say we all dumb. They say we got air heads. Me got no air in my head. I got something else. Don’t know what it is. But I don’t think it’s air.

Liz,

I dunno. I wouldn’t think Charlie Rangle qualifies as being very honest. Nor would Tim Geitner. How about Blagovich? There are enough crooks to go around in both parties.

I certainly have to have pity for the clueless.

Article I, Section 2, para 3, states a census will be taken for representation 3 years after the first meeting of Congress. Which anyone who has actually read the Constitution would know.

So any number given to the clueless question would be a guess.

chas
First census pinned the population at just under 4 million, which is irrelevant to any thing I have posted today.

I think Charlie qualifies for a few years behind bars. That’s where you’d be had you done the same thing he has.

chas

All I want to say is Fox News is by far the most outrageous news organization that I have ever seen in my life. The only reason why I watch it is to keep informed on the distorted news and opinions of the conservative view. There is a popular saying: “Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. Absolutely pathetic!

Hi Roy…lol I continue to enjoy your point of view, on the ‘news of the day’. I don’t think I am a Republican. I am a conservative, which is not necessarily a Repub, tho usually ‘they’ tend to be more conservative. Yep…plenty of blame to go around, for sure, and of course, bad guys on both sides of that aisle. Bad behavior, however, does not excuse more bad behavior, as you have pointed out so eloquently several times. lol

*I am, however, still registered as a dem, tho they have moved so far left one is wont to know whatever happened!!! YIKES! Prob need to go and re register, one of these days, when I have time, hum? lol Time? Guess there’s plenty of that now….

Thank you johnson, for watching FOX. Hopefully along the way, you too can be an informed citizen, and that, after all, is all that one is endeavoring to be. So, an informed citizen, watches it ALLLLLLLLLLLLL, and does their own fact chking, not believing a word of any of it. I hope that is what you are up to, cause that is what I am up to. Daunting, of course, but worth the effort always. IF one wishes to protect and defend our Representative Republic, as set for in our Constitution, that is. lol Thanks for your thoughts on ‘the news of the day’, fr a dif point of view. Aly’s welcomes alllll points of view of course, and the better informed, the more likely one is to be taken seriously.

Liberal,

You funny!!!! hee hee…..LOL!!

You could, johnson, start the journey by clicking on Chas’ name, for some info on the Constitution, which may have escaped you, with it all sooooooooooooo confusing, hum? I recommend it, to polish up on what exactly the Constitution does say. Sterling is also a good read, for info abt the news of the day, as well as Frank, who also has a blog full of info. You might be pleasantly surprised to find out that not everyone is totally BRAIN DEAD, hum? And informed people do have something important to contribute to the conversation, whether you may agree or not. IF you have come here to just bash, you are prob in the wrong room, of course. Hopefully that is not what you are up to. Serves no one, and clutters up the conversation, hum? Not fun for you, and certainly not fun for anyone else. lol Read EVERTHING, believe NOTHING AT ALL, w/o doing your own research. lol

*and Carolyn has a great blog as well….this grp that comes to Aly’s is very informed, and one could learn a thing or three, if interested…or not, if there is no interest at all, of course. lol Not a game ya know. Serious business to be considered by allllllll citizens, and just what they want our beloved America to look like for themselves, as well as their children and grandchildren.

Listen! I don’t expect you idiots to understand. I realize you all are afraid of the way America is changing and becoming a more diverse melting pot of different cultures. It’s pretty scary becoming the minority is society. If you need some pointers on how to deal with it better, let me know. Suckers!!!!

He is funny isn’t he Sandi? Yep…have enjoyed his comments as well. lol A little smile along the way, is good for the soul, I must think. lol

Well, there ya are the johnson. I guess you are here to bash, so I will not pursue this conversation, only to say, it’s too sad and I am very sorry for you. We will try very hard to protect you fr your folly, as our parents protected us fr ours. Again, you are in the wrong room, I think, and you will not find a good conversation, with no facts to back up your viewpoint. Bashing for the sake of, is a waste of my time for sure, and surely you have something more important to do? You could start by READING THE CONSTITUTION, hum? lol

Gini,

They say that laughter is the best medicine, and it has always proven to be true in all my experiences. This is why I’m laughing so hard at johnson getting his johnson in a bunch!! LOL!! Seems to be a typical response from the extreme left.

Hello again,

I just heard that one of the senators from my state (Rockefeller) is pushing for the public option. I was able to support him in the past. He is a liberal democrat; but his seniority gives him more power to do West Virginia good than a newly elected senator. Since I am an Independent, I held my nose and gave him my support, even though he is a liberal. Now that he is supporting the public option, I will NOT support him at the next election. My vote is going for his opponent.

Sandi…too true, and of course, not a worthy opponent for this space of informed and ‘humorous’, LTD’S. Wonder why ‘they’ come here to Aly’s? She’s not got a huge blog, so what is the business of these pep, but to cause trouble? I am always interested in a dif point of view, but do insist it be defended w/facts, and not just bad language and shooting fr the hip, hum? lol Brrrrrrrr, here still. YUK! The plumber is back to fix a small leak in the faucet in the bathroom. No water, so perhaps I should switch to beer??? HA! OH….a little early for that perhaps. I do have bottled water left fr the wake, so can at least fix more coffee. lol OR, I could drink WATER??? YIKES! lol

Gini, don’t you see? Johnson is Liz, and Liz is Johnson. The have the same attitude. Even the same writing style. Hello Liz. Socialist as ever, I see.

Hi Roy…my girlfriend fr W. Va., has mentioned the same as you, and he has lost her vote as well. lol

Gini,

I agree. I am always open to seeing and hearing things from a different point of view, but not if it includes name calling combined with anger. To me that is the definition of a tantrum isn’t it? I could be wrong….(but I don’t think I am) LOL!!

BTW: Make more coffee…..thats what I’m gonna do! LOL!! Wait till 3pm THEN switch to beer! HAHAHAHA!!! just kidding….I AM gonna make more coffee though! lol

Well Blogger, since I don’t read her, and now will be scanning past johnson as well, I really couldn’t say. Not worthy of my attn, at all, on any day. I do enjoy yours however. This is such a good blog, I continue to wonder why all the attn, by those who wish to be so ridiculous and high handed in these serious times we are in. Nothing to offer at all…not even any entertainment value, for goodness sake. Unworthy of pausing to read those comments at alllllllllllllll. lol

Why don’t you have the detainees over for coffee and tea Liz? They are perfectly harmless. You might even rent them some rooms. Let me know how this works for you. If your still alive to tell us.

At 3p, Sandi, I will be ‘in costume’ at the Halloween party for the six yr old twin grandson’s. Toooooooo fun! Am looking forward to the afternoon, for sure. lol Tooooo fun, and I find their conversation very informed, as compared to some who come here, hum? Smart little boys for sure. lol

John…me thinks those pep suffer fr, NOT IN MY BACK YARD, hum? Somewhere else, please, and someone else’s money as well, not theirs. Yep…that has been pretty well proven to be so, when the charity of those w/much is looked at. uh huh, yup…

Gini,

Oh that WILL be fun!!! I love seeing all the little ones dressed up in their costumes on Halloween!! Reminds me I need to remember to get a bunch of candy to hand out! Wish I could still go trick or treating…..oh well….ok I just made myself sad now….Good job Sandi! LOL!!

Dog On Crack,

If you’re still out there, I’m serious about the tea party idea for the tri-state area. I’m just trying to think of a good time. Presently, it is, of course, October. Do you think a good time would be just before the election next year–say about a week? Plus, I’ve never organized one of these things before (or anything else for that matter. Do you think we should put an ad in the Herald Dispatch? Print and copy a couple hundred flyers? Be thinking of a few ideas. I’ll do the same; then we’ll arrange to meet. That shouldn’t be hard.

Liz who? Johnson who?

Hiya Liberal: keep it coming…love it..

Oh Gini: what fun! Did I miss what you are dressing up as?

Yes Gini what will your costume be?

Hey Sandi: I am going to lunch. See ya later!

One more thing: I just heard that the medical devices that will have a surcharge assessed inlcude: hearing aids, condoms and tampax.. Seriously, this is not a joke!

Bye Carolyn!! Enjoy lunch!!!

Only have one of the three Carolyn, as I am deaf, but no surprise at all, if true. Have a nice lunch, and see ya later on. Sandi…am looking forward to this event w/the grandson’s for sure. lol Will take pics, I PROMISE and get them posted by someone who knows how, which is NOT me….ha! lol Need to learn how to do that, for sure. lol Do know how to email them, so I am sure posting them won’t be a prob at all. lol Daughter will prob post pics on facebook as well. She usually does. lol

A Medieval Lady of means, A QUEEN, hum? perhaps. I have a tiara, so I could do that as well. Will cogitate and will take pics Carolyn. lol

Gini that sounds so perfect!! Can’t wait to see the pics!! Have a great time at the party!!!

Gini, be a dominatreux like MetalGirl. She doesn’t need a costume – she wears it everyday! LOL

Carolynro – the healthcare bill has a lot of metamorphosis to go thru – so don’t post any “misinformation” until it’s done. Everything is in the talking stages – taxes and all! LOL

John – paranoia may destroy ya! It destroyed Cheney!

Johnson – I’ve been trying to get thru to these “fringers” for a while now – but they are too thick-skulled. I think most of them are from rural areas – maybe even “mountain people” – if you know what I mean!

Well, MetalGirl, your boyfriend sure is good at name calling. What names do you call him when you’re holding the whip? LMAO!

What smells in here? Oh nevermind….I see it now……Hi Liz!

Gini, you might be “pervalicious” – never know! Ask MetalGirl – she can give you some tips on how to use the whips and chains!

Hey MetalGirl – what are you going to be for Halloween? A black cat? Bring out the claws!

Liz I don’t recall him calling you names….a little sensitive aren’t you? HA!

Roy, if we don’t have the public option, it’s NOT reform. We can’t leave the insurance companies in charge of our health – that’s corporate communism – and it has to be stopped! They are going to make them abide by the anti-trust laws and they sure don’t like that. Don’t invest in any of them – their profits are about to be slashed HUGELY!

MEDICARE for everyone! Well, that’s how it will be after the next election. We should be able to pull it off after we get them out! Let’s DO IT!

Oh please MetalGirl – he started in on me on Day 1 with “libturd” and then many more. I gave him a definition in the urban dictionary though – so I got back at him. LOL

Roy,

Blago and Rangel are 2 bad apples – and there’s a few more, but I do like our president and a lot of the new congress and senators. Out with the old and corrupt!

Yep you sure did….and it bothered him SOOOOOOOO much! Oh wait…..actually no it didn’t…

chas,

don’t you think we need a bit more protection than we did with 4 million? I do! We don’t want to go back to the wild, wild west!

LOL

Well, MetalGirl, I was too kind – but that’s just the way i am! You can punish him for me OK? Thanks!

You want put these jerks in charge of your healthcare, after it fails and it will then it will be too late to go back. At that point you may get it. I doubt it as your too stupid to get anything

The dress is silk, light green, w/gold around the edges…made for me, specially, so it fits perfectly Sandi. My DIL is a costumer, so it’s made to order for that moment in time, as well. Toooo fun! lol So much talent in this fam, it’s amazing, hum? I am covered over w/nice smart kids and grandkids, as well. Lucky lady, I think, for sure. lol

Oh Gini that sounds beautiful!! Everything was so ornate from that era, I love it! Yes, you are a very lucky woman indeed!

I think the Obama is asking for trouble…unless that’s what he’s after. To divide & conquer our own military. I believe it will create more probs than what it’s worth. For me, that’s just TMI! Another thing, there are just some places a woman’s mouth does not belong, and that’s at the top of the list!!

P.S. I love Los Lonely Boys! The rock! And Henry of the group is a HOTTIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only cities have smart people. People like those nice ACORN people who helped out the hookers. My, weren’t they smart! Aren’t hookers and Democrats one and the same? Both of them will sc..w you for money.

Liberal,

HAHAHA!!! Never looked at it that way, but you sir, have a point!!! LOL!!

Liberal…… The runaway balloon story is on FOX right now, if you don’t have the t.v. on, turn it on. Six yr old supposedly on board, and the balloon is homemade. Very scary for sure. lol Denver area, right now. lol

I’m scared to death for the little boy in the balloon!!! Is anyone watching this?

Yes Sandi, we are alllllllllll watching this, even those who HATE FOX, are prob watching this! YIKES…but, must run to the store. lol bye……

Yes Sandi, we are all watching this, along w/everyone else. It’s all Bushes fault ya know, unless he is successfully rescued, then,

bye…am off to the store. Pary pending ya know, so must dash! lol

From the transcript of Rush’s show dated September 18, 2009:

Dem pollster on a talk show on WPTF speaking to radio host Bill LuMaye: Hear how the dem is saying that democrat campaign managers are asking pollsters to not poll in their states because it looks so grim for their democrat candidates!

“RUSH: Here is our blowtorch affiliate in Raleigh, North Carolina, yesterday, WPTF radio, the Bill LuMaye Show. He’s talking to Tom Jensen, the director of Public Policy Polling communications, and he says, “How important are your polls to a political party, whether Republican or Democrat? Do they look at this and go, ‘Holy cow’? They recognize the trouble they’re in, don’t they?”

JENSEN: Absolutely. We’ve had campaign managers for Democratic candidates in other states call us up and ask us not to poll their states because they don’t want the public to know –

LUMAYE: Really?

JENSEN: — how bad their status is. So we know we’re in big trouble. (snorting laugh)

RUSH: This is the Democrat director of Public Policy Polling.”

Here is the audio link to the interview:

http://billlumaye.blogspot.com/2009/09/tom-jensen-of-public-policy-polling.html

Also shocking news:

In August 29 of the 50 states (57 if you are Obama) had job losses.

In September 42 of the 50 states reported job losses. How’s that stimulus workin for ya?

HI anyone,

Guess I got here as everyone left

I too have been watching the balloon.. Hope the little tyke is safe somewhere…. I wish they would find him already….. This is really heart wrenching…..:(

PS it’s snowing here in my town Lousy summer (rain rain rain)….
Now snow …..what happened to Fall??? Seems like it’s winter already and I live 33 miles north of NYC

Some people read but fail to comprehend.

Read the quote again. Numbers have nothing to do with it.

Now go away and speak no longer to me. I have no desire to talk to someone who cannot understand the Kings English at a 5th Grade level.

chas

American Solutions: NY Times misses the truth about “green jobs”

http://bit.ly/niv8w

Robert Reich the new death panel czar. Waiting on Obummers approval.

Someone here is NOT smarter than a 5th grader! Who could it be? Chuckie? Are you going to be that doll for Halloween????

BTW, I can speak to whoever I want ~

If you don’t want me to speak to you – go away! LMAO!

Yeah, the Bush economy sure produced lots of job losses! Good thing we got those idiots out so we can fix it huh?

Liberal – excellent description of the far-right wingnut Republican party! Corporate communists!

DOW just keeps goin up – and up – and up – Obama rally!

Okay fine, and I will remember that the next time you tell someone not to talk to you. And you do that often, especially when you’re losing a debate, which you also do often.

Ya know, people are allowed to have different opinions, without being called morons and idiots. Most people just walk away, muttering moron, or idiot under their breath. Not you, though. No, you just broadcast your moronic idiotic opinions out there for everyone to see. Good job. Good times. Thanks for the laughs.

Like Obungle had anything to do with it. Do you just sit around thinking of things to say that will piss other people off? Or do you really believe this stuff, teacher?

Sterling, if it had a brain it would be dangerous

Sterling,

Notice how when you peg it spot on it just insults instead of responding with a real answer?

La La Land must be a tougher place than I imagined it was.

chas

Cat, that’s what so darn funny about it. It has no brain. And no manners, either.

Yes sir, chas, I have noticed that. Why do you think I still engage? As I’ve always said, everyone is entitled to an opinion. No matter how stupid it is.

And guess what? Stupid is in the eye of the beholder.

I NEVER lose a debate here – and you know it! LOL It’s just kinda dumb to respond to the same talking points over and over…it’s like you people can’t remember what you talked about from day to day.

We’ll see who’s stupid when the healthcare bill passes with the public option. Your party can’t filibuster it without recruiting a Democrat, which has never been done before. They won’t be so bold as to go against their party – unless they just hate their job! LOL

It’s too bad the Repubs had to resort to all the lying and scare tactics instead of just cooperating. Then maybe they would have been taken seriously. Obama said nice things about a “stupid” southern governor today who has dissed him repeatedly. At least he’s trying to be bipartisan – something which the “new” republicans don’t understand. I commend the president for that.

I NEVER lose a debate here – and you know it! LOL It’s just kinda dumb to respond to the same talking points over and over…it’s like you people can’t remember what you talked about from day to day.

We’ll see who’s stupid when the healthcare bill passes with the public option. Your party can’t filibuster it without recruiting a Democrat, which has never been done before. They won’t be so bold as to go against their party – unless they just hate their job! LOL

It’s too bad the Repubs had to resort to all the lying and scare tactics instead of just cooperating. Then maybe they would have been taken seriously. Obama said nice things about a “stupid” southern governor today who has dissed him repeatedly. At least he’s trying to be bipartisan – something which the “new” republicans don’t understand. I commend the president for that.

We’ll see who’s stupid when the healthcare bill passes with the public option. Your party can’t filibuster it without recruiting a Democrat, which has never been done before. They won’t be so bold as to go against their party – unless they just h-a-t-e their job! LOL

It’s too bad the Repubs had to resort to all the lying and scare tactics instead of just cooperating. Then maybe they would have been taken seriously. Obama said nice things about a “stupid” southern governor today who has dissed him repeatedly. At least he’s trying to be bipartisan – something which the “new” republicans don’t understand. I commend the president for that.

No brains and no manners are rampant on this blog – you got that right Sterling/and all your other aliases. Some of your aliases are dumber than others, but they are all pretty ignorant.

And I love how Chuckie has no answers! I’ve not seen one thing he’s posted that supports any of his arguments – not even cut and pasted! Sad!

Well Mr. Sterling – Wall Street calls it the “Obama” rally! Watch some business news sometime – or read the Wall Street Journal – if you can comprehend anything in it.

If I don’t get respect, I don’t give it. Simple as that! You are morons and idiots unless you can be civil, and there are only a few who can. I’ve tried to be civil, but you all think your opinions are infallible – kinda like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. They don’t even realize how ridiculous they are – clueless. That’s what having no education does – makes you think you know it all, when in reality you know next to nothing.

This is what you guys want, right?

10 years ago the average family of four paid $6,000 a year for health insurance. Today, it’s $12,000 for the same coverage. In 10 years it will be $24,000 if there’s no reform.

Sound good?

Johnson,

Regarding your 9:46 post, I know where you are coming from.

Tell me please, from where are those figures derived? What percentage of the average family’s income was spent on health insurance? What percentage of the average working citizen’s income was paid or supplemented for health care insurance? Is it the same as today’s dollars? Do you know? Or are you just paid to spit out imaginary numbers and figures? Or to coerce citizens into health scare insurance?

And just to be clear, so that we morons and idiots and otherwise stupid people can understand it, where exactly in the Constitution does is say that every citizen is entitled to health care insurance? Where exactly, in the law of the land, does it say that some of us more entitled than others, to well, entitlements?

Oh yeah, that’s right, you’re a liberal. No facts or figures are required. So sayeth you, so sayeth it be.

Liz,

Everything you said in your 8:39 response should be applied to you! You don’t realize how ridciculous you are….clueless! I guess thats what having no education does. You think you know everything when in reality you know next to nothing!

Sterling,

Since the Government is unable to calculate simple things like cash for clunkers, I doubt their ability to estimate the rise in health care cost. Especially since they don’t want you to know the increase.

But if you toss around 10 year figures the average income of tax payers went from $46,000 in ‘99 to $58,000 in ‘08. Seems to me, that the rise in health care cost seems to reflect the general rise in income.

Of course a demon is always needed. When gas prices were up, it was “big oil” who made less profit margin than any bottled water company. Today it’s insurance companies who sit down around number 35 of high profit margin companies. I don’t think 4% is all that unreasonable, but I think that lower cost could still be achieved by cutting waste and fraud.

Do that first, and then we can talk. Ya think?

chas

Airlines are challenged by weak revenue and volatile fuel prices, but many executives think keeping loyal customers happy is the best way to improve their business, according to a new survey.

Raising revenue and keeping customers happy is a tricky balancing act, however.

Travel-reservations-technology company Sabre said Wednesday that it surveyed 90 airlines around the world, and 86 percent said efforts to maintain and build customer loyalty were had the most positive impact on their business.

In the same survey, 58 percent said merchandising and extra revenue from sources such as fees for checking baggage would help them financially.

Incomes did not double, but health insurance premiums did. How do insurance companies justify the increases? Their CEO needed the money! That’s about the only excuse they can come up with. Not only did the premiums increase, but the chances of being dropped from your policy because you got sick increased by 100%. This is just general knowledge. Anyone who defends this is not thinking.

BTW, the government runs the best military in the world. The schools are not bad in most areas, and if they’re not it’s because the states are not handling the funds well. Medicare covers sick people – and it’s been run fine when conservatives are NOT in office – same can be said for Social Security. Check your facts before opening your mouths.

Kevin,

So do I, and I also find it pathetic that they have any following at all. The more I watch, the more outrageous they become. Funny, but when I was younger (before 9/11) I watched FOX every day and loved it. Of course that was before all the damage caused by the last administration.

Have a nice day – and all you fringers as well.

NFL means Not For Limbaugh

LOL

Right back atcha, toots. You check your facts. Better yet, post your links or have the decency to differentiate between facts and your opinion. Anyone with half a brain in their head knows that when the cost of what is insured goes up, as in health care delivery, the cost of insuring it goes up, too. Your car insurance premium is more than what it once was because your automobile is worth more. Your property insurance is more because your property is worth more than it once was. Not everyone is paying twice as much for their insurance premiums, either. That’s a fallacy. Regarding the increase in insurance premiums, state how much is shouldered by employers, rather than a direct expense to individuals. You are blowing up statistics in order to prove that your opinion is right. Post facts, if you know how.

Latest polls show Hillary is now more popular than Oclueless

The Limbaugh issue with the NNL has allowed all to see just how far the left will go to destroy a conservative. No one can find any evidence of these supposed “quotes” by Limbaugh. The author book that these alleged racial slurs came from made the statement up. Limbaugh has every right to now sue that author for libel. It is all these people who never listen to Rush but pretend to understand his show or to understand him that are spreading lies and misinformation about any and all commentators and media personalities that happen to not fall in with the left wing propaganda machine which is being led by Rahm Emanuel out of the White House to destroy any oppositional behavior. It is disgusting that their policies cannot coexist with scrutiny and that they “kill the messanger” in order to ram their unpopular and unsustainable policies through the congress. America is in real trouble people.

If Rush sued anyone, he would be sued back so bad it would make his head spin. His rhetoric has been so damaging to so many people that I think he would get fried. He need to be destroyed – or shut up permanently.

Hey, do you know if Liz is the gay daughter of Cheney? I think she is!

Well, that sounds bad. I don’t wish any harm to come to him – I just think he needs to take all his h-a-t-e speech and retire it for good.

Sorry, but my property is worth less, but my insurance premiums have NOT gone down!

And what will the spoiled public employee do when the health plan goes through and they are suddenly restricted from having 5 MRIs a week and are taxed on their benefits as earned income? For some employees this could represent an extra tax hit of $5000 a year? What happens when the access to services that they are accustomed to getting for a very low, if any, cost suddenly are no longer easy to access or free? This will sink in as more information comes out. 54% of Americans are against Obamacare right now. Only the idealogues and the stupid think it is good to add 10 years of tax hikes in return for 5 years of benefits.

Sorry, but FOX polls are skewed and you know it. 75% of Americans and doctors are FOR the public option. Check your facts and don’t believe skewed polls.

Healthcare is a RIGHT in all nations right now except the USA. What does that tell you?

He need to be destroyed – or shut up permanently.
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Wow, nice words there. Because he disagrees with the liberal left agenda, he needs to be destroyed? Very telling of the liberals. Freedom of speech to all, but the ones who disagree.

He’s h-a-t-e-ful and I don’t like people like that – if you do, then that says a lot about you!

The health plan calls for an immediate assessment of taxes on Americans but the plan does not become fully operational for almost 4 years. That is like making car payments on a car that you cannot pick up from the dealership til 2013. And 26 million will be uninsured by 2019. What is the point of this just to put us right back where we started only with huge tax increases on EVERYONE?

You don’t know the details yet, so do presume anything! It has a long way to go before it even looks like a bill.

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I keep asking for that source and it never gets produced. Only repeated ad nausum. Keep telling the lie and hope someone believes it. That’s the tactic. Provide your source, if you know how and if you didn’t make it up. Seventy-five percent of doctors do not support health care takeover.

Health care is not a right in all nations! That’s a not an opinion. That’s a lie!

I know you love your high premiums and you don’t want to be insured when you get sick. Doesn’t everyone? LOL

I’ll provide a bunch of sources! BBL

People are free to use this issue to try to make Obama look like a hero and to make republicans look like the party of “no” but when you apply logic rather than the screaming of nanna nanna boo hoo emotional victory lap with out addressing the economic impact of this plan- however it turns out- on the country only a short sighted and short lived euphoria is possible. Experts from all walks of life who are not tied to insurance companies or pharma or the AMA etc all see disaster with adding another $2.2 trillion to the deficit. The projections are now that Obama will add $9 trillion of debt to the American taxpayer. This must be taken into consideration. Moving on this issue just to make it feel like movement is happening without assessing the impact is foolish. Obama and congress don’t have to live with the consequences…they have guaranteed pay and benefits as long as they can manage to serve for 5 years and then they are home free. None of the rest of us who will be subjected to this tyrannical legislation have that comfort.

Truth does not equal hate.

Maureen Miller
AC360° Writer

Rush Limbaugh’s effort to buy a stake in the Saint Louis Rams is over. The controversial radio talk show host was supposed to be a limited partner in a group that wanted to buy the NFL team. Though, the head of that group now says Limbaugh will have no part in the bid.

“It has become clear that his involvement in our group has become a complication and a distraction to our intentions; endangering our bid to keep the team in Saint Louis, ” the head of the group Dave Checketts said in a statement tonight.

As we mentioned earlier this week on 360°, Limbaugh’s involvement had run into opposition within the NFL due to his past remarks about African-Americans in general and some black NFL players.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell expressed doubts yesterday when he said Limbaugh’s “divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about.” Also Tuesday, Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay said he would vote against a bid that involved Limbaugh. Keep in mind: any bid needs three-quarters of existing owners to agree.

The NFL is NOT a political organization – they just don’t want to deal with Limbaugh’s divisive rhetoric. I’m sure that most owners are conservative – and they love the “Bush” tax loopholes. Why would they want to pay their fair share of taxes? Of course they don’t all feel that way, and many actors also don’t mind paying their fair share. That’s called “giving back” – and that’s what this nation is all about.

Life and liberty are rights. Health care is not a right. Neither are jobs, homes, cars, pensions, or bubble gum, for that matter. And neither should any of those things be supplied to me or anyone else off the back of another citizen. To presume that this is moral or good or right by a government leads to tyranny. My life and liberty cost no one else a penny.

The hidden costs of ObamaCare

Floyd and Mary Beth Brown • October 16, 2009

As an expert in antitrust and healthcare, Professor Clark Havighurst of Duke University Law School often speaks of restoring the “price tags” to health care. In The Wall Street Journal, Holman W. Jenkins, Jr. wrote regarding Havighurst’s theory: “Now that’s a concept that the public could actually make sense of.”

“The public is not as dumb as it’s made out to be,” says Jenkins. After the public options died in the Senate Finance Committee, Jenkins claims, “What’s left is a package of ‘reforms’ that are mere trite extensions of what we’ve been doing for decades… piling up mandates on private insurers and then lying that this somehow isn’t driving up the cost of health insurance,” and “piling up subsidies for health consumption and then lying that this isn’t responsible for runaway health-care spending.”

Obamacare Tax Frays Middle-Class Vow:

Commentary by Kevin Hassett

Oct. 12 (Bloomberg) — The U.S. Senate’s version of Obamacare finally is emerging into broad daylight, and the more people see of it, the less popular it should be.

For all the rhetoric, the plan is quite easy to sketch, thanks in part to an analysis by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation.

So here goes: Under the health-care plan advanced by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, lower- and middle-class people who have insurance today are going to be taxed and squeezed in order to cover people who don’t.

The money to finance the new entitlement comes from two main sources, tax increases and Medicare cuts. Medicare cuts are mostly borne by elderly folks with modest means. That undoubtedly explains why seniors are so concerned.

The tax increases, by contrast, have received little attention. There has been almost no discussion of the simple question: who would pay the tab?

Kevin Hassett continued

Think about how unusual that is. It is a radical departure from past tax debates. When President George W. Bush was in office, every tax proposal, no matter how minor, seemed to be buried by a blizzard of detailed distributional analyses that went from think-tank Web sites to the front pages of your favorite newspaper instantaneously.

In this debate, the distributional-industrial complex has remained silent.

Such remarkable silence in the noisiest town on earth can only be caused by an uncomfortable truth. And the mother of all uncomfortable truths is lurking below the surface in the health debate. If you are a card-carrying member of the left-wing establishment, you can’t analyze the distributional consequences of the health bill, because if you do, you will catch President Barack Obama in a lie.

(CBS) A clear majority of Americans — 72 percent — support a government-sponsored health care plan to compete with private insurers, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. Most also think the government would do a better job than private industry at keeping down costs and believe that the government should guarantee health care for all Americans.

The Baucus bill will be “fundamentally” changed!

Americans who support this president spending trillions of dollars in the name of “reform” that does not reform must take your heads out of your cloud of delusional fog and look at the price tag. To be happy about insuring one group of people by taking away from another group is insanity. There has to be a better way but it won’t be found because the politicians are too dumb to change how they do things. They are repeating all of the mistakes that they always make….cow-towing to the left wing and shoving ill conceived plans down our throats and ignoring the warnings from the CBO and the people who pay the bills. Disgusting.

The Problem With Two Conflicting Health Reform Polls
Newsweek
October 16, 2009

By Jeremy Herb

Do Americans support health reform? Depends how you ask. A Fox News story today – headlined “Opposition to Health Care Reform Holds Steady” – said Americans oppose reforms proposed by the Senate 54 percent to 35 percent. A CBS poll last week, however, said the public supported a public-option by a two-to-one margin, 62 percent to 31 percent. Why the disparity? The answers you get depend on the questions you ask.
The CBS poll asked about government-run health care this way: “Would you favor or oppose the government offering everyone a government administered health insurance plan-something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get-that would compete with private health insurance plans?” Compare that to the Fox News poll, which focused its question on the legislation in Congress: “Based on what you know about the health care reform legislation being considered right now, do you favor or oppose the plan?”

“The way that both news organizations posed their questions are problematic. CBS compared the public option directly to Medicare, leaving respondents with the idea, conscious or unconscious, that a government-run plan would be like Medicare, something favored in the public eye. (It’s not yet clear if or how closely a public plan would track Medicare.) Fox, on the other hand, asked its respondents to take what they know about health-reform legislation and decide if they favor “the plan.” Of course, there are five plans in Congress right now, and most people are confused by the legislation that’s proposed. And by tying health reform to Congress, it’s tied to an organization with pitiful approval ratings.

In general, health-reform poll numbers tend to be unreliable. But when surveys don’t ask simple questions, they are asking for skewed responses. These kinds of poll questions are like the discredited report this week from America’s Health Insurance Plans, which took certain elements of the Baucus bill to incorrectly claim premiums would rise-they only make the public more skeptical and cynical. We are much more interested in knowing whether Americans support a public option in concept, which is much different question from whether they approve of something that’s like Medicare (even if this turns out to be true) or whether they’ve be reading H.R. 3200.

YOU HAVE TO READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE OR POLL WHEN TOUTING THAT IT SUPPORTS A PARTICULAR VIEW. YOU CANNOT JUST READ A COUPLE OF SENTENCES AND CALL IT GOOD. CBS AND FOX ASK DIFFERENT QUESTIONS AND GET DIFFERENT RESPONSES. CBS SKEWED IT’S QUESTIONS TO PROMPT RATERS TO THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT OPTION WAS LIKE MEDICARE. FOX ASKED RATERS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON WHAT THEY UNDERSTOOD ABOUT THE LEGISLATION. TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. SO, FOX WOULD GET ANSWERS THAT ARE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS OUT THERE. CBS ASKED QUESTIONS THAT LEAD PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT OBAMA CARE WILL MIRROR MEDICARE AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT IS THE CASE.

Rarely are poll questions not loaded. Shhh we’re not supposed to know that.

Qinnepiac Poll October 8, 2009

“The public says it doesn’t want Congress to pass a plan that only gets Democratic votes, but with apparently solid opposition from the congressional Republicans to Obama’s plan it will be interesting to see how this issue plays in 2010 should the Democrats push through a bill with just their own votes,” said Brown. “The long-term politics of a Democratic-only bill are clear as mud because they would almost certainly depend on how the public likes the finished product when it comes time to vote in 2010 and 2012.”

On the negative side, voters don’t believe 71 – 19 percent that Obama can keep his promise that health insurance reform will not add to the federal deficit, down from 72 – 21 percent disbelief August 5. Even Democrats believe 50 – 32 percent that health insurance reform will add to the deficit. “

Right Bruce….and it is easy to pick and choose what you want to believe. I prefer to trust my business instinct to evaluate products or plans that will affect my life.

Obama is so desperate that his plans are hurting seniors that he is sending out money to buy back their votes. Now, that is change we can believe in!

I always look for the slant before I open my mouth.

Let’s be clear here and make sure that we understand what’s going on. The government had millions of dollars to spend on Cash for Clunkers, but not a dime for a cost of living raise for seniors next year? But it can afford to offer a consolation prize of $250? Do we have that right? Meanwhile, we contemplate a health care takeover that will cost trillions in the long run. But no one’s going to pay more in taxes? Okay, are we all on the same page now?

Most the poll’s I’ve seen put the public options between 50 – 54% against.

Right about where Obama’s approval rating sits….lol

chas

CBS always polls a significantly higher and vastly disproportionate number of Democrats as opposed to very few numbers of Republicans and Independents. Their numbers can’t be trusted as they are politically motivated. Try a reputable source like TIPP or Rasmussen.

Not to mention Sterling that we have to hurry and pass a healthcare bill that dos’nt exist but have to take time to weigh options in Afganistan while our military is under staffed

IBD/TIPP Poll Most Accurate Again In Election 2008

http://www.tipponline.com/

Good Morning Everyone

With Obumma the Military is NOT a priority…… Makes my blood boil…

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

Where do you come up with “trillions”? Post a link please! The healthcare bill will cost $800 billion – and that’s the highest I’ve seen. And that’s just “upfront”. After a few years it will become “deficit neutral”. If you don’t know how to figure it out – LEARN! I can’t teach you everything!

I think you’re confusing the healthcare bill with the national deficit.

I don’t trust any polls, I think the’re all pointed

Right – polls cannot be counted on. Too many different ways to ask a question. What we DO know is that Obama was elected to get this done, and he will.

Sorry Merle, but most Americans are against the “wars”!

There are better ways to deal with terrorism – drones have done more for Obama than the wars did for Bush in 8 years! Much has been accomplished in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Even Bill O’Reilly is impressed with the way he’s handling those situations.

I think you need to listen to your man Harry Reid who said himself that it will wind up costing 2 trillion dollars. That’s two, as in more than one, like one isn’t already bad enough. Quite frankly, who cares about the deficit neutral thing at this stage of the game? It’s okay for him to run up the deficit with every other ridiculous stimulus, cash for clunkers, $250 for each senior, and what not, but not with health care? So how does health care get paid? Off the backs of the working citizen. That’s okay, though, as long as we don’t admit that it’s a tax, and as long as we don’t add to the deficit. If you don’t know how to figure it out, then learn. But then you’re the unteachable teacher, so try your best, hon.

Sterling, all I can say about your ramblings is “you were born in the wrong century.”

Post a link to where he said that! That’s totally false!

There was a report out yesterday about the progress of the stimulus and it was GREAT! It has saved countless jobs (in the millions) – so I don’t want to hear about that. It’s much better than a full-blown depression – which is what we were headed for.

Drones. More liberal talking points. What did you learn in class today?

Yes drones! Get an education – or find out what you’re talking about before you open your mouth. Drones have taken out “major” Al Qaeda players.

Cost of the healthcare plan – and this is from FOX news!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/07/cbo-release-cost-report-sweeping-senate-health-care-reform/

Of course you have to keep in mind that Grassley is the biggest exaggerator of all the Republicans – and his biggest contributors are the healthcare companies. Check it out! He’s not afraid to LIE, and he does it often…every day! He is not to be believed. Small businesses will come out on the winning side – that’s a fact that has been repeated over and over by drafters of the bill.

Only FOX research is skewed. MSNBC always tells the truth. My daddy is the federal government. He is going to do everything for me. He’s going to fix me when I’m sick. He’s going to make sure I don’t eat so much of those bad Cheerios. He’s going to make sure I get all the cigarettes I want. He’s going to pick a doctor for me. He’s going to buy me enough pork to last the rest of my life (He knows I love pork). He’s going to educate me, so that I always say what he says and think what he thinks. That’s what he did for Liz, you know. He’s going to make sure I don’t have to do or think about anything. He doesn’t want me to grow up too fast. He knows I need discipline though. He will take some of my allowance if I get make too much. Then, he’ll give it to all his other children who can’t afford cigarettes and beer because everybody wants them to work too hard to make money. Working hard is bad. He’s going to get me a hammer and sickle to play with. Isn’t that nice?

I just talked to a gay friend of mine on the phone and he wants to know why the troll h-a-t-e-s homosexuals so much.

Liberal, stop smoking!!! And if you feel you need punishment, just ask DogOnCrack’s girlfriend, MetalGirl. LOL

From Common Sense and Wonder:
Thursday, October 15, 2009
Accounting Tricks in the Baucus Bill

It still amazes me that anyone with a brain thinks this is a good idea:

One trick is easily explained. The bill imposes tax hikes and benefit cuts right away, including $121 billion of Medicare reductions between 2011 and 2015. But new spending really doesn’t start until five years out (2015) and isn’t fully operational until 2017. The bill uses 10 years worth of tax hikes and benefit cuts to fund a few years worth of benefits.”

….And that’s just the start. For example, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report last week claiming the bill won’t add to the deficit. But this assumes that employers who dump employee coverage under the Baucus bill will then increase worker paychecks by an amount equal to what they had spent on health care. This replaces a nontaxable event (providing health insurance) with a taxable one (increasing worker paychecks), magically producing $83 billion in revenues. Without this windfall, the Baucus bill adds billions of dollars to the federal deficit in the first decade….

…The CBO report also estimates that receipts from the 40% excise tax the Baucus bill would levy on “Cadillac” insurance policies “would grow by roughly 10 percent to 15 percent” a year after 2019.

That’s nonsense. If you tax something heavily you’ll get less of it. If this tax is enacted, there will be fewer Cadillac plans—and hence less revenue….

…Under questioning at a Senate hearing Tuesday, CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf admitted that the $500 billion in tax hikes in the Baucus bill would be passed onto consumers, jacking up insurance premiums. That undercuts the argument that Democratic reforms will make health care more affordable.

Some governors are also figuring out that the proposal in the Baucus bill to expand Medicaid will shift a big chunk of the federal health-care tab to states. States, after all, pick up an average of 47% of Medicaid’s costs—and expanding it will force states to spend more…

That’s NOT the final bill Carolynro – until you get that thru your thick skull, nothing means anything. I’m sure the bill will be enacted LONG BEFORE the dates in the Baucus bill. Remember, he was pandering to his contributors…just like Grassley. It’s just a start!

…Then there are $400 billion in benefit cuts that are frightening seniors. Jeffrey A. Anderson of the Pacific Research Institute has pointed out that the Baucus bill cuts Medicare payments to physicians by 25% within two years and keeps payments at that level forever, without adjusting for inflation. If this becomes law, doctors who take Medicare patients will see their real income decline each year.”

The “cuts” are referring to cutting out waste and fraud – and that will be easily done. It doesn’t mean cutting benefits. Comprende???