Good morning Ali ~

Morning Ms Ali,

Can’t wait to hear what are Rove’s type of books….

Hope you have another great show.

Good morning Ms Alisyn,

Right now I am reading American Victories, why Americans win wars and why we’ll win the war on terror.

D-Day was certainly the real turning point in the War. With all that was against only God could have made it happen.

Looking forward to the show today as always.

chas

Good morning, Alisyn! Congratulations again for being awarded Celebrity Mom
I’m looking forward to the show!

Good Morning!!!

good morning all

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAT!!!!!!

Happy Birthday cat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Ms Alisyn it’s cat’s birthday.

chas

Thanks everybody for the birthday wishes

LOL OK we are up but not talking yet LOL

Good morning Alisyn,
I am not reading anything of import right this moment. Unless one considers wedding lists and thankyou notes, of course!!! hahaha! I have my cupa and am waiting for the best of the best to start… Another poignant moment of history…we pause to remember the brave who fought the evil that threatened the world all those years ago.

Good morning Alisyn and all in the room and HAPPY BIRTHDAY Cat

I myself am looking forward to today, Madison is celebrating it Bicentennial & the 200 hour party starts today with a parade, day is filled with live music, the Fire Muster with antique Fire trucks dating back to the 1800’s, an old fashioned Chautauqua & so much more! The day ending with a lighted boat parade!!

Good Morning Ali,

My dad spent four and half years liberating Europe, and was even MIA behind enemy lines for 3 weeks while the French Underground helped get him back with US troops. The hardship and horrors these men and women endured to ensure ours and the worlds freedoms can never be repaid. Yet somehow a Thank You was more then they needed. When we see men and women in uniform we should always give them a thank you and perhaps pick up a tab for a meal or drink.

Here’s to all the men and women who serve out country in times of war and peace!

Ed

Wish I was down there, some of my favorite people.

Wow Ed I thank your father for his service & will keep him in mind today along with the many many others

Best morning show ever made
Stars our Friends Ali, Rick, Clayton, Dave.

Happy Birthday Cat!!!!

LOl chas, I read your 6:06 comment when the pole dancer was on tv ~ good timing……

Ed,

Please thank your father for me, my family and all that enjoy the freedoms he helped secure.

Ed–so true…but don’t forget their spouses. They serve as well, especially when their military spouse is deployed.

Good luck trying to get Kid Rock. Remember the last time you talked about him? and his beer? You went out of your way to insult him. Commented then that you needed to apologize but you never did!

Jeez, it ate my slogan.

Chas…don’t you know Wordpreess is very hungry at this hour?

Alisyn,
I do like Karl…

Love Rove and the fact he has a sense of humor about himself….

Alisyn,
Hummm…don’t remember you insulting anyone. Must have paused at that moment to get a cupa, I guess?? ha! Oh well…this household gets a bit hectic, so could have missed it I guess? Insulting people is not usually what happens, which is why this IS the Best of the Best, and starts my weekend with a huge smile!!!

Karl cracks me up

I thought it was rather insulting for the Kid to show up at a morning show half knocked on his tin cups.

That shows a real disrespect for the people trying to promote your wares.

chas

I dont remember the Kid coming on I must have been MIA again

Best morning show ever made
Stars our Friends A li, R ick, C layton, D ave.

There, now will it post?

chas

Good morning Frank,
Smart people who actually have a life, usually are replete w/a sense of humor, I have found. Hum? Yep…for sure!!! lol He’s a smart man for sure, and I also enjoy his sense of humor over it all, as well as his insightful observations of “the news of the day”.

THANK YOU to all who have served for the sake of freedom and liberty, including the families of service members. You have my respect and gratitude.

Speaking of Alisyn, the old soldier is awake…brb

Good Morning everyone from Flyover. Nice and cool here today, with low humidity.

Great question about USSC nominee and Rove’s answer…she did not oops once but 5 or 6 times said the same thing. almost the exact same way…that is not an oops it is a pattern

Good morning all

Only able to spend a little time today—much to do—June is going to be Crazy!!!

The Constitution doesn’t acknowledge “life experience”. It expects you to rule on the constitutionality of a lower court ruling or a passed law.

chas

Morning A Wall.

Any head banging yet today?

Doesn’t matter Frank, she’s a shoe in. I don’t see any way she gets the boot.

chas

Hey Hey A Wall,, a little time here will help with the Craziness or add to it

Good Morning everyone !

Chas, my constitutional scholar, do you know the judicial oath…”The Judge” (Napolitano) read it and it made no mention of life experience.

Well Good Morning MD glad you joined us!!!!!!!

all that head banging last night has me dizzy—-

I have a Gmail account & C layton is right

Morning MD.

Congress gets about the same oath Frank, too bad they ignore it.

chas

Good morning Mac, dodging any storms yet?

Me, too A Wall. But then again I’m not bright enough to understand the point anyway. How’s everyone today? I see Mac made it. Welcome!

Happy Birthday Cat!!! My dear friend, I hope that your day is spectacular!!

Me, what did he say about g-mail accounts, I missed it.

Thanks Sterling

That they are very secure and they are always doing things to improve & I found it to be user friendly

Morning Sterling!

Gotcha, thanks Me phew!

Darn, wordpress ate 3 posts….

Glad it’s your turn to feed wordpiss today Frank

Alisyn,
And there’s Rush! Of course, anyone who actually listens to his show, does know “who he is” and what he’s about. Apparently the WH, does not listen regularly, hum? Altho I did suspect they might as there is so much to say about him and his show. lol Especially fr our lawmakers on the other side of the aisle, hum? Wasting valuable time to admonish him…shameful, one might think? Now that they have won, one would think this would stop! ha! Guess they aren’t feeling real secure, or one might suspect that is the case, anyway. lol

Hi there, You guys are awesome. we were just talking at work and wonder why Obama just doesn’t go ahead and tell the world he is a muslim. We all know it and so does he.

Yeah, why won’t they leave Rush alone…..after all he is the authority on EVERYTHING!!! LMAO! I call him Mr. Bouncy-bouncy!

My sister Linda will be there at Belmont today, she says she will be looking for R ick to say hi LOL

Alisyn,
Ah! And the room starts to fill up! Good morning A Wall, Olin, MD, Chas, Betty, and Eileen, Frank…oh my my…Chas and Rose and Dom! It’s gorgeous in Ohio today…the kiddo’s are here, to finish the deck and flower beds. ~~sigh~~ hopefully it will actually get done. The personal shopper is off to the store, and hopefully cookies are on his list?? YIKES! Forgot to mention that to him…AND our Birthday Girl, Cat…

That sounds fun, Me!

Loren, I don’t think it’s fair to just let that junk fall out of your mouth! Obama is trying to build bridges that were destroyed…and most of the world commends him! We all know he’s Christian.

Good morning Loren…one does wonder? Oh well..and so it goes, hum??? lol

Gini our weekends would not be the same if we didnt meet up In The Greenroom!!!

Race for the cure is a lot of fun. I did it twice!

Good morning all
Karl Rove read 110 books during his last year?
Thanks for keeping your eye on the target, your mind on your money and your money on your mind.

Gini, glad your Ohio weather is cooperating for you. Last Saturday Naples was not wedding weather thunderstorms and much (needed) rain, spotty storms today as well.

Alisyn.
Ah…and life isn’t “fair” now is it??? Hardly ever, and so it goes. Would seem there are some who just don’t understand that, however, a little age does help. The very young have more difficulty with that concept, of course.
I ask the old soldier if he remembers what he was doing on this day, all those yrs ago, and he doesn’t remember. I will pay attn, however, because sometimes he does…must keep paper and pencil at hand!!!

Gini paper & pen would be a great idea, priceless memories !!!! We can learn so much from the old timers

Good morning Betty,
We have had storms all around us, but last Saturday, it was gorgeous! The wedding was magnificent…the reception perfect. A good time was had by all. lol The boy ended up in the emergency room, Monday nite, and it was nice actually, that he has a “wife” now, so SHE

I wonder if there’s anything in that book about the girl who drowned at Chappiquidik. Ted Kennedy should be in jail, not the Senate.

oops! hit submit by accident…so SHE got to spend the nite in the emergency room, instead of me! hahaha! He’s ok…he is going to have to address his health issues more aggressively. In the mean time, he dodged another bullet. Whew! lol

Liz…on that we agree

hi aly,
6/6/44-the day the we found out the true cost of freedom-

I suggest “Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress” by Dai Sijie.
Good historical fiction.

Good morning Alisyn and all.
Absolutely love to read. I had to read so many “heavy” books when I taught that now, I go for fun reading. A friend just bought The Shack for me so will read that next. Vince Flynn’s latest comes out in paperback July 28…..can’t wait.

But your heart was there in the hospital with him Gini, if not yourself at his bedside, another sleepless night ~ they’ll always be our babies.

Good morning Liz K, glad you could join us ~

where does it say that the Kennedy clan automatically has power—I thought we still Elected our representatives. didn’t hear the whole report, multi tasking here. Maybe it’s time for the Kennedy’s to hang up their hats—too many bad eggs.

Frank, I know we do have some common ground. We are all Americans!

A Wall,,,They could probably run Fido Kennedy for dog catcher and he would win in Mass.

Bryus,
You are home! Good trip I hope? lol

Hey Gini

We had a wedding last weekend too—a fabulous day–my nephew got married—the very last song of the day was “I’m proud to be an American” and the bride asked that we all gather on the dance floor, hold hands in a circle and stop and remember our military personnel—she made this weepy girl cry. Bro was there too–retires in a month from the Corps—we’re all so proud.

How can we ever repay those guys and gals who serve and have served — Thank you!!

For summer reading I highly recommend “Countdown to Jerusalem” and “In Defense of Israel” by John Hague. For that matter any Stephen King re-tread will do as well.

In light of Obama’s forthecoming D-day commemoration speech and its likely content its time to pull out one of my favorite ole summertime games. Its a word substitution game fit for the entire family. All you have to do is each time you are about to utter a profane word, just substitute it with “Iraq” or “George Bush”. Ya know, what the iraq? Go George Bush yourself! You gotta be Iraq’n kiddin’ me? Great times and summer fun are sure to ensue for the entire George Bush’n family!

Good morning Liz K…

Frank, I think there’s something in the water supply in Mass. Kennedy can’t lose! Again…term limits!

Good morning James Fuz…you make me smile.

That’s pretty Iraq’n funny, James.

Thank you for using that slogan Ms Alisyn.

chas

Morning all–Summer reading selections?? I have two that we should ALL read, so we can watch it unfold informed…”Atlas Shrugged” and “The Wealth of Nations”!!!

When do Fox and Friends Weekend anchors get their own show page on FoxNews.com? At least their own banner?

D-Day meant a movie at a drive-in theater when I was a child. The Longest Day. But as I became an adult and learned that World War II was more than just a bunch of movies AND that my dad was a corpsman in a MASH unit on Okinawa during the war D-Day took on an entirely different meaning.
None of us, except for those of you here who have served the country, can know that absolute selfless sacrifice those young boys made for the United States of America and her allies. When ever I see a soldier, be it in an airport or in WalMart, I always walk up to them shake their hand and say “thank you”. I cry at parades when the military compliment marches by. I cry when I see my dad trying to find any of the last of his fellow military members on the internet to try to post their names in the WWII monument in Washington, D.C. . That is what D-Day means to me.

I’m sure Obama’s speech will get rave reviews….by most of the country anyway! (sorry, but after only 5 months, I’m still willing to give him a chance) I still have not heard a better plan from the other side. Has anyone else? Don’t think there’s one out there yet.

morning Ali and all….and Happy Birthday Cat!!!!

Gini
Who is this old soldier? Wish him my best, and thank him on this sad day.
I was in Russia for there Victory Day cerebration, end of WWII for them a few months prior to the end of the war for USA. Their National pride and pride in their soldiers and civilian out shine any other that I’ve experienced. I was very impressed and put off at the same time, just my nature I guess.

Ryan,

D ave and C layton use Twitter.

I believe that they also have a facebook page.

chas

A Wall,
Wonderful!! I bet there were a few tears for sure. Dad went to the reception only. He is so frail, I didn’t want him to have to sit in church…it exhausted him thoroughly, but was worth the effort of course. I did get a picture of the whole family, with him, which I have not actually got in my hand, but when I do, will send it to you…of course, out of town fam were unable to make the trip as things conspired to make it too difficult..another “life is not fair” moment, hum??? haha! It does happen, on this journey we are taking. lol

Both my grandpas served in WWII and they were the most patriotic people I ever knew. One died, but I still have one of them.

Good Morning Alisyn, and everyone.
Happy Birthday Cat.

Bryus,
I am glad you had a good trip, and safe home. The “old soldier” is my dad. lol

The National D-DAY MMEMORIAL is in BEDFORD, Va., not D.C.
Thanks

Oh boy, what will happen to Kate’s embryos?

Thanks Jimmy

Good morning Sal,
Beautiful day in Ohio!!! YEA! And hopefully the deck and flower beds will actually get done today. This little job has taken way way too long…lol Small space, ya know? Not like it’s an acre after all…

HI Gini, Frank, Chas, A Wall. Sterling, Liz K, Mad Dog, Betty, Ryan, James, ME, Loren. Marine, Ed, Marshall, and ALI !!It is a beautiful day here. My flag is flapping in the wind and I am headed out to do more yard work as we commemorate D-Day.

Thanks Sal

Chas,

I’m aware…I just think they deserve their own place on the FNC server.
But nvm that. I’m networked to them on Twitter too.

R

Good morning Carolyn and Sterling!!! In between seeing to dad, and the kiddo’s, I am having a hard time keeping up this morning!!! YIKES! lol

To me, having a progressive liberal give a commemoration speech concerning any military matter makes about us much sense as it would for me to give a speech on playing Wall Street in Papa New Guineau……..

My dad was not sent overseas in WWII. His assignment, however, was to care for wounded soldiers at Fitzsimmons hospital in Denver. Ironically, he discovered much later that his father had done the same thing in WWI.

Hi SaL!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CAT!! WOOOOOHOOOO!

I see you’re commemorating D-Day today. Remember there is a National D-Day Memorial in Bedford, Virginia. Though smaller than the WWII Memorial it is still a fabulous place to visit and see.

With term limits there would be no Murtha mess! Think about it.

Have a wonderful morning Carolyn, see you later ~

In regard to Hacking. Alot of people use one or two PASSWORDS for all accounts. Twitter, Aol, Store sites etc. So once breeched…its easy to apply the PW at other sites!!

Fox and Friends
Getting college students out of bed faster than morning lectures.

R

Thanks Carolyn

James, everyone thinks differently……we are a diverse country for sure!

Gini I am having a hard time keeping up too my phone just dont stop ringing, dont they understand ALI is on!!!

Good morning, Alisyn and everyone.

I’ve read that the foundation the runs the National D-Day Monument in Bedford, VA, is out of money. They’re trying to get the National Parks Service to take it over.

Good Morning Alisyn and to everyone on the blog this morning.

Happy Birthday to Cat!

Re: Murtha, being from PA, the local news has finally, finally started reporting on his past connections with Kuchera. But the people in his district will elect him over and over. They just do NOT get it.

Dave needs to ditch that red tie. Its like a STOP sign.

Ryan, good luck this fall.

Gini
Give him a hug for me.
My grandpa’s served in WWII, one on either front, it was fun to listen to them ramble on, I miss them both

I got one

I weekend without Fox & Friends
Really gives me the Bends

LOL I stink at it but thats my first one LOL

Good Morning Gini, yes it looks like its going to be a nice weekend.
your welcome Cat.

Thanks Mary

From the A.P. 3 minutes ago……”President Obama to announce all US forces remaining in Iraq be relocated to Papa New Guineau”……

I respect Huckabee’s opinion. I hope he comes up with something!

Alisyn,
The kiddo’s are in making some breakfast, and asking their grandpa questions. He just can’t remember any of it…and that’s prob not all bad? He doesn’t remember mother either. He often asks me who that beautiful woman is in the picture with him. lol Of course, sometimes he does remember it all!!! Pen and pap are at hand. lol

Ok how about this one

To miss A li ,D ave & C laytoon
Would make you a Buffoon

LOL Ok I’ll stop trying

Morning Carolyn, have a great day,
see you later.

I remember the first time I went to the WWII Memorial. I dialed up my dad back in Michigan and told him how beautiful it is. He started weeping and of course, so did I.
I want so badly for him to see it but my mom can’t make the trip and he won’t leave her. I suggested he participate in the program that takes planes full of vets there for a day but he still won’t go without her.

So, he started locating veterans on the internet and by mail and filling out forms for them to have their names entered into the memorial. It gave him great satisfaction to try to make sure all are recognized, living and deceased.

Escape entertainment has somehow gone over my head. Ron & Kate, American Idol, survival shows, etc. do not provide the same soul nourishment as a good book. Although probably out of the mainstream of thinking, I am currently re-reading William Bennett’s “America, The Last best Hope”.
This, in my humble opinion, is the best treatise on American History written to date. Don’t get me wrong, I haven’t read them all.

Mike just took the words out of my mouth—too bad he’s not working in Washington. He gets it.

Hi Olinl and Mary.

Eileen Good morning Lanna and Mary!!! lol

oh, Me…you can do better….

the best time for Fox
is on the weekend
the guys and Ali
and many a freind!

This fall?

Summer class is in session!

But thanks…I do start grad classes in the fall.

Huckabee does get it and he has the right temperament to be President. I’d really like to see him run again.

Huck is correct. There is no talking point if “You must die” is their starting point.

chas

Good morning Jimmy…that’s not “fair” ya know?? YOU after all, were a teacher!!! hahahaha! Another “life is not fair” moment, hum???
Monday thru Friday
We muddle thru
Waiting for Saturday
And there is YOU!!!!!

That must be a Fox poll, but I personally don’t care much for either of them. Why would they take a poll like that? Pelosi vs. Cheney???? LOL

OMG OMG OMG!!! Those TWERPS changed the channel!!! Whatever!!!! Someone is going to have to have a “tongue lashing” for sure! lol DON’T touch my t.v. YIKES! lol grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

gosh….we sparkle in the morning, don’t we Gini? LOL

Betty and Sterling ,
Sorry i didn’t respond, lots of distractions,but underway now.
Yes Betty , it is overcast and building up already this morning.
I am hoping to cut the grass today.

Why mess with the rest, when Fox & Friends does it best.

I just cant get one out

Thanks Gini for sticking up for me

glad to be here,
and a reason for that,
is to wish Happy Birthday,
to our friend Cat!

Jimmy…there are some that might not agree??? hahahaha!!! But, am willing to play, tho my prose is not always good, hum???
We smile huge
As the t.v. is set
We read the muse
From this magnificent group!

From New York to the Belmont
Fox and Friends is in the top spot.

Good day all around.

Get a slogan read this morning and youngest daughter just gave birth to a baby girl. 7lb 6 oz.

chas

Jon & Kate may have better ratings but they lost me when they started sitting in that chair and Kate would state on every show “This is a Business” and if they fight till they lose everything, Kate will develop a show about her and the kids living in a double-wide down by the river all the while complaining about Jon not paying enough in child support.

She is ruining those kids.

DID WE GET BUMPED FOR THIS!!!!!!!!

Congratulations, chas, to you and your daughter!

Congratulations ‘grandpa’ ~ name?

Congratulations Chas!

Fox and Friends,
and smiling faces,
gonna be fun,
for a day at the races!

I agree. I think the John and Kate saga has been about publicity. I am afraid the whole show was exploitation to begin with.

Oh Chas!!! Congratulations! lol We do love the babes. lol

Congratulations Chas! That’s great!

CONGRATULATIONS CHAS!!!! You will find this to be the most loved girl in your life! May GOD be with her always

Congratulations Chas.

Help! Where is the link for today’s After the Show Show? I went to the Fox and Friends home page but the current link goes to Friday’s AtSS.

Congratulations Chas!

My dad would never have been able to go to college if he hadn’t served. He was inspired by the doctors he worked with in the field hosptial and decided to go to college using the GI money when he returned. A good consequence, for sure. His success has given me a much more blessed life . Others in his family were not so fortunate having grown up in a depressed Detroit where many families were torn apart by a lack of education, opportunity, and jobs. Oh, sort of like how it is now!

I remember President Reagan giving his speech on D-Day, seeing it on TV and listening to every word. The “one” will NOT even come close to what Reagan said.

I plan on using my MUTE button for his speech.

I protest…they cut the show short and no AtSS….

Morning Eileen, what happened to the show?

Congratulations Chas!!!!

I believe they settled on Haley Rose.

Thank you one and all.

Shows is over, I thank everyone for the company and the thoughts. Have a great day all, see you tomorrow.

Have a great day Ms Alisyn.

chas

Congratulations Chas!
Skip a line ?

Congratulations Chas
Is this your first shot at being a grand dad?
You have to spoil her rotten you know

Hi Sal I dont know why we got bumped already!!!! & cant get AtSS??? WTF

Congreats GRAMPS…

When OselloutAmerica comes on the dogs will want to go out, whether they need it or not.

so sad i must go
and bid adieu
be back in the am
to see Ali too

Have a great day chas, catch you later ~

No one can deliver a speech like Ronald R. The Great Orator of our time…

Obama is getting the ultimate dis…being made to wait for the other leaders.

time to get the groceries—and then—It’s Off to the Races—-giddyup!!

I wonder if he will start this speech with a German phrase like he did with the Assalma Lakum cause “they” say he said that only to relate to whom he was greeting MY BIG OL BUTTT

Chas, like my mother in law always says “if I would have known Grandchildren were so much fun, I would have had them first.” Enjoy every second you have with her.

See everyone tomorrow….

They did!!! I am not smilin’ over this at all!!! YIKES! lol boo hoo and grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, for sure! lol I do have things to do however. Prob should over see the progress outside?? OR, maybe not. They prob won’t welcome my input, as I tend to “micro manage”, as mom’s often do, hum?? Get lots of raised eyebrows. Mom..I KNOW what I am doing, so don’t need your help, hum???
WE LOVE RONALD, and the “one” can’t come close. No point of reference, after all? For sure…and my mute button is poised also. lol He, being the first prez I have had difficulty listening to. Have always listened, whether voted for or not, so this is an unusual phenomenon for me. Too bad he doesn’t remember he is the prez, hum? of these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Would be nice if once, he would. lol grrrrr, again. lol

chas–

Congrats to you and the precious life your daughter brought into the world.

Best wishes to you and your family!!!

I hear you Eileen,
I go outside for a minute for a smoke, come back in and the show is over, dam.

The World War II Memorial is a beautiful tribute to all those that served and fought in the Great War.

Remenbrance of the reasons for that war, along with honoring our heroes, is what today is about. My dad was with Patton’s troops in North Africa and Sicily. He than went on to Italy, having fought at Anzio.

He, like many others, chose to try to forget the horrors of that war. It was only after his death that I discovered a journal that he had kept, telling of the events that he had witnessed. It was not pleasant for the Fascists in Italy after the liberation. He, like many, believed that the Pope was a collaborator.

Normandy was the beginning of the end for Nazi Germany. It took thousands of lives and millions of civilian casualties to secure that victory. History does not record all of the politics involved in prosecuting that war.

Viet Nam, though, is a shining example of what happens when politicians become too involved in micro-managing a war.

Wow, I turn my back for only a moment, and POOF! Alisyn and the gang are gone! Boo-hoo. :surprise:

see y’all later, too…..

Well atleast I have a full day of activities here in town today & the Parade gets going at 11

I have to cover T in Birthday Cake for Cat too LOL

Bye A Wall, Chas and Frank…as well as my fellow fans of Aly, this morning. I am also off to the “races”. I think more are coming to help with this long over due project, so must get with it this morning, for sure. lol

Olin

Good Morning Alisyn, all

My father was the oldest of 9 (6) brothers, first generation, American’s. All 6, of course, participated in WW2 one never came home, one spent the next 50 or so years nursing wounds he incurred while liberating France. When I became of age to know and understand why Nonnie cried every Veterians day, and why Uncle Dino walked with a cane, I asked my father to tell me the stories of those days. He would alays say “oh my bella, war is not something to talk about, it’s something to pray never occures.” He didn’t want “thanks” and in fact thought it unbecoming of a man to accept praise for something he felt was a duty of a man. ( he didn’t think beautiful women should be in the military..LOL) … Anyway….. to the poster who thinks liberals and war heros are opposites, never met my father and our family.

A Wall…well done!!!

Allisyn,

Careful with the terminology regarding medical bills and bankruptcy. To paraphrase, you stated that people are suffering bankruptcy due to large “doctor bills.” While unexpected, catastrophic health care expenses represent a significant financial strain for many due to underinsurance and the fact that most do not anticipate or save for this contingency, physician charges represent a small fraction of the expenses a patient faces. Hospital bills and ongoing drug costs are far larger in the overall picture. For example, when I fix a fracture or replace a hip or knee, my charges are usually between $1000 and $1500, (I was paid $2500 for the same work in 1990), while the hospital bill is typically $25,000 to $50,000, sometimes more. Further, when an uninsured patient presents at the emergency room for care, the physician of the appropriate specialty treats the person until resolution of the problem without any real expectation of being paid. The hospital, on the other hand, for -profit or not-for-profit, typically is very aggressive in pursuit of payment for the debt for the hospitalization, even using legal action, garnishment of wages, or liens.

You in the media have tremendous power to shape opinion and frame the debate on a topic. The future of health care delivery and financing is too important to lend itself to soundbites intended to instill outrage.

I know what you mean Sterling.

Have a great day Frank, Chas, Jimmy.

I found something for ME….see, even Shepherd Smith doesn’t get Beck!!! LOL

http://www.newshounds.us/2009/03/15/shepard_smith_mocks_glenn_beck.php

Jon and Kate get $75K per episode and all the controversy puts them in the tabloids. Maybe they want more? I think it’s all manufactured! Too bad the kids are in the middle with no say. They better set up trust funds for those kids.

Lori…..during World War II almost all the soldiers were liberals (Democrats).

My stepfather landed on Normandy on DDay as a NAVY Seabee and served in Okinawa in the Pacific theater. I recently flew to Washington DC to assist as a volunteer with an Honor Flight for two days. It was such a moving experience to meet these men and women who served during WWII. They are extremely humble and from my experience, I would recommend more people to volunteer for the Honor Flight programs. You will come away with great admiration and respect for our American Heroes. On this 65th Anniversary of DDay, I would like to send out a huge THANK YOU! to all those heroes!

I know Liz.. .. That is why they call it the good ole days..LOL LOL..

I’m off for the day, I’ll see you all in the morning, hope to have the full show then, but glad we got the time we did

Have fun all… sun is shinning… the pool is calling… namaste’

Lori, the politics of a few affect the lives of many in times of war. In the lives that are lost and the blood that is spilled, there are no democrats or republicans, only Americans. Your father and uncles are heros, and will always be remembered as such. Even if they don’t want to be thanked, I hope that they knew how grateful America was for their service.

Have a nice day people…..and you too Sterling and Chas!

Hi Alisyn,
I am reading two books. Just completing “Guilty” by Ann Coulter;and starting”"Liberty & Tyranny” by Marl Levin. I get the audio version on C.D.s because I travel 500 miles per day at times. Great way to make the time and miles go quickly.
Good promo reciently about your W/E shows.
Paul–Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

Yes Sterling one of those “liberal” war heros came back and served his country in the house of representivies for 28 years… as a liberal democrat….

Have a nice day everyone. Good show 2 day.

Lori, my gripe about FOX is that they don’t put disclaimers on shows like Beck’s, which is pure fantasy. Even Cavuto was very upset with him for “fearmongering”! Cavuto is a business guy and he knows darn well that the economy will recover and the Dow is NOT headed toward 27!!! LOL

I just wish that anyone from FOX who may be reading this blog will think about remedying that fact. Many people out there think Beck is on the level…they don’t realize the show is about “nothing”! Kinda like “Seinfeld”!

Have a great day Lori.

In case you need a reminder on what a great man Ronald Reagan was:

‘The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.’ – Ronald Reagan

‘Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. Was too strong.’ – Ronald Reagan

Wonderful, Mary. He also said:

Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.

Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.

How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

I’ve never been able to understand why a Republican contributor is a ‘fat cat’ and a Democratic contributor of the same amount of money is a ‘public-spirited philanthropist’.

Those children (some as young as 17 and 18 years old) who fought in WWII lived through a depression during which many future soldiers and their families became dependent upon the government for their existence. Dependent on government for everything, including their meager Christmas presents and their food. Why do we glorify a president and a political party that captured so many in the trap of dependence upon the government? My dad is still embarrassed that his parents were so caught up in a president who forever trapped millions of Americans into the welfare system. Those brave marines and soldiers would have said they were Martians had they been told that their food and clothes were coming from Mars. The horribly poor in the 1930’s were bought and paid for by The New Deal and the tradition continues. I doubt seriously that very many of those youngsters who volunteered to serve the country were concerned about political party and were much more interested in killing the enemy and the 3 hots and a cot and an opportunity to get away from the poverty they were living in.

OMG…but, one might expect this fr liberals who forget what it is all abt, hum?? And so it goes, in an America whose citizens forget, or haven’t bothered to read at all. Too sad really, Lori, that you would decide that if not a liberal, not an American. I am so sorry for you, but your fam didn’t win the war single handedly, after all, hum? Not at all…you might rethink your post, as there are others here as well, whose fathers fought bravely. You missy, are wrong.

Mary, judge everyone individually. There are plenty of smart liberals, just as there are smart conservatives – and the reverse is true in both parties. Reagan was brilliant, and even most liberals agree with that. I am leaning more left than right these days because the Repubs just don’t have a platform. Seems they are only finding fault instead of finding solutions since the election. If they get too conservative they won’t win back any lost voters. I want a viable 2-party system in this country. I hope they can come back around with someone like Reagan. Capitalism is a great thing….when it’s not allowed to get out of control.

Have a great day!

Amen, Sterling! And why is a liberal who has been bribed by the promise of a government program more noble than a conservative who believes in personal responsibility?

Gini, I’m sure your whole family was not always conservative! Hum?

well said Gini….thank you for making that point!

Carolyn, what about corporate responsibility? That goes hand-in-hand with capitalism.

Gini:

People are forgetting about the desparate poverty under which families, like my dad’s, were living under in the 1930’s. When their White Knight came along, of course they all thought they were liberals. But, I say, if Welfare had come from Mars, those soldiers and their families would have pledged their allegience to the Martian party!!!

And one of my favorites:

The taxpayer – that’s someone who works for the federal government but doesn’t have to take the civil service examination.

Thanks Sterling, and just to add a few more.

‘It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.’ – Ronald Reagan

‘Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book.’ – Ronald Reagan

‘No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.’ – Ronald Reagan

‘If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.’ – Ronald Reagan

Gini:

My dad still talks about the adoration his illiterate parents had for FDR. They were brainwashed by the goodies they were getting, meager as they were and spoke adoringly of FDR til they died. They died with nothing, by the way.

I thank you,
to the people that has served and are serving in our Military,
they are true American heros.

LOL, Sterling. Good one. I also love the Reagan quotes. Perfect in these days of Otaxononbreathing.

Dittos Sal!

Carolyn, you’re dodging the question again! What about corporate responsibility! Take some business classes and you might want to add economics…..or just listen to Cavuto on FOX, or CNBC. That might give you a clue about what went wrong, or you can check the numerous links I’ve posted about the “Robbing of America” by our Banks, Insurance companies and “big business”! Honesty and ethics have to be in the mix or capitalism can’t work properly. Once we get “checks and balances” back in the system, we can return to capitalism. The Bush admin. decided we didn’t need them anymore, but they were WRONG!

You are Liz??? hummm…OH! Forgot you are all knowing one. You know less than nothing, and your uninformed posts continue to insult me, little one. YOU KNOW NOTHING AT ALL, and respect NO ONE AT ALL…you are a total NUT! lol Not nice, you say? True, but then, you are “not nice” at all. Why would I bother with you at all? OMG…I just don’t know, so won’t again.

Sal…I am off to do the yard now, and drive the kiddo’s crazy. Already the boy has had to take down a part that was not done correctly. Not happy!!! hahahahaha…too funny! But, he is amiable enough. It will get done. Not much more to do, actually. lol Can’t wait to “dance on my patio” with my elegant father, hum? I am so fortunate to still have him with us all…even if he can’t remember much of it, and his heroic deeds…we have his Purple Heart and campaign ribbons to remind us, after all, of his bravery and sacrifice. lol hum???

Gini,
Can you please thank him for his service to our great country,
for me.

I think the speech went very well!

LOL, Gini. Calling them like you see them again, in this very nice place to be. But please don’t forget, there’s only one here who bashes, bullys, and insults, and it’s not you. But then, I’m not bright enough to understand, and I need to take a college course on Government 101, (even if I do know that America is a republic and NOT a democracy, I’m still the one who needs the college course, LOL) Carol needs to take an economics course, and the rest of us are not allowed to express our malformed opinions about anything AND we need to change the channel from Fox. Does that about cover it?

Sorry, Gini, but I will still try to educate you, so you don’t head down the wrong path. LOL Don’t feel obligated to respond, especiallly if you don’t know how. The others don’t either! They had no solution for all the embryos frozen in fertility clinics, so we just don’t address that topic anymore.

Liz….you could probably educate a puppy to lick you…if you tied a pork chop around your neck!

Yes, Carolyn….and I have a link for you! They watch Fox so you don’t have to….

http://www.newshounds.us/

however there are SOME Fox shows worth watching….mostly just the business shows.

The flyover was Awesome.

Sterling,
You and “Carol” need to get tuit!!! hahahaha! lol oh well, and so it goes, in this “very very nice place to be”, that welcomes all, even the NUTS, hum??? Sal..I will do just that. Thanks…

Where are all the bashers now that the speech is over??? CHris Wallace is covering this well I think. His dad sure was a “flaming liberal” wasn’t he? LOL

Well, I guess everyone has left, so I will too.

Jimmy, my puppy would want the pork chop around YOUR neck!

probably so Liz…cause he wouldn’t like you even with one! LOL….dogs are smart that way….they can tell the good guys LOL

Q: What do you get when you offer a Liberal a penny for his thoughts?
A: Change.

Q: How do you confuse a Liberal?
A: You don’t. They’re born that way.

Q: Why is it good to have a Democrat passenger?
A: You can park in the handicap zone.

Your coverage of the D-Day Remembered 1944-2009 was “outstanding” I was curious if any other stations were carrying this important historic event, and of course they were not. This day is a defining moment in World history and leave it to Fox to appreciate the importance of a moment in time that still gives me chills, and makes me proud to be an American. I am a 43 year old Army Veteran and pray that people can some day understand the ultimate sacrafice these men made for their country.

good ones Betty!

Well, Jimmy, I don’t dislike conservatives, just the self-righteous ones! Everyone has a right to their own opinions, but they don’t have a right to say that their opinion is the only RIGHT one or try to force their beliefs on others! That’s what makes this country great….freedom to choose what we believe!

Mike, MSNBC is also covering it!

BTW Jimmy, I am Independent….with some conservative views and some liberal. Most people here think all liberal views are bad. It’s very hard to get a discussion going here because they like to repeat rhetoric heard on Fox programs.

Liz….you have come into this blog….and continued to be rude, arrogant, insulting to almost everyone….and seemlingly intend on creating discord continuosly.
Certainly we all have our opinions…and in here…we agree to disagree, and each can state his case….and should be able to in a friendly manner. You have not done that, at all. I find you pious and self righteous and condescending in your manner. And to what purpose, Liz? What does your behavior promote? Nothing positive that I can see.

Jimmy, you negelected pompous to your list.

Jimmy,

self–righ·teous Listen to the pronunciation of self–righteous
Pronunciation:
\-ˈrī-chəs\
Function:
adjective
Date:
circa 1680

: convinced of one’s own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others : narrow-mindedly moralistic

Let’s see someone says we are narrow minded, need to be educated, try’s to force their beliefs on others. Would that fit the definition to you?

Seems to me my friend that certain people are so self-absorbed that they can’t even see the fault in their own self while casting that allegation at others.

What say you?

chas

Betty….no need to state the obvious! LOL

The reason it’s hard to get a discussion going here is because you insult everyone with whom you engage. As you’ve said, it seems like a thousand times now, everyone is entitled to their opinions, however, you must not have much faith in your own since the only way that you present them is with an insult to someone else. That’s fine, but stop acting so self righteous when others push back with their own opinions. And for goodness sakes, show some respect to Fox News and Alisyn Camerota, since this is their forum that your using to hurl your insults.

Jimmy, good thing you can’t read my mind for the word following pompous …………….

Thank you Chas!…I agree completely. And I think someone is in need of analysis….and quickly! LOL

I would agree Chas…yes, that’s the correct definition. lol One expects, however, that everyone does not know the definition of that or “promise” either, tho you did also post that as well. And, so it goes, as the uninformed continue to be just that…uninformed, hum? A gallant effort tho, my friend. lol

already completed the phrase in my mind, Betty! LOL

The only way some people can feel good about themselves…..is to try to belittle everyone else.
A true sign of a soul in need of a good 12 step program!

Jimmy!!! Ya thank??? hahahaha!!! lol

Her last post? We can only hope. LOL

Sterling… Difficult to have discourse with anyone who is “uninformed” and does not respect the views of others at all. Of course…

Hi John…not likely! lol boo hoo and grrrrrrrr. How are you today? The sun is out here, and I don’t intend to let the twerp get me down, hum? So glad we decided to abandon our plan to “join forces with” hum???? ~~laughing~~ lol

no…it won’t be her last post….she’s gone to the Internet to look up somethiing to cut and paste as her own original thinking. Probably something from MSNBC LOL

Given enough time for preparation, anyone can write a speech that is stirring, and offends no one.

This indeed was not an American war, it was an allied war.

The problem with Obummer is his disingenuousness. His philosophies and actions, along with those of his associates, are not mirrored in his speeches.

In spite of what the messiah says, America is not a muslim nation and should not be numbered as such.

Many years ago, Dr. Billy Graham said that tolerance would be the downfall of America. Is that not what we are witnessing today?

so Liz…where’s that sharp wit? Can’t think of any new insults? Just going to keep making the same. stale remarks you have come to rely on….or did you go to the dictionary this time….maybe you can learn after all!

OK you guys….you might be right. I have been hard on a few people here and I apologize. Have a nice day!

I’m great . Just got up as I worked untill 2:00 am. Got a head ache from whatshernames posts. Maybe if we ign ore her she will go away. We can only hpoe.LOL

Liz…the dictionary is a large book…with lots of words that will strange to you, I am sure! Oh….it’s in alphabetical order…there are 26 letters…from A to Z….and if you need any help in finding words to describe you….I have many sugestions!

Confused didn’t I LOL

Hi Everyone,

I have an uncle who was wounded twice in World War II–the first time at Omaha Beach on D-Day and the second time at the Battle of the Bulge. I have read a great deal about World War II and the courage our soldiers and our country demonstrated during that time. I tell you, it is unfathomable to me that humans can be so courageous and full of resolve. We were GREAT during that time because we HAD to be. Negotiations and liberal minded “thinkers” who wanted to appease and pander the tyrants who attempted to conquer us FAILED. I hope our country and our president will grow the spine necessary to deal with nutcases like the ones in Iran and Korea. I wonder if FDR or Harry Truman would have apolygized to Hitler or Mussolini for American “arrogance” or for the supposed mistakes we made. We’ve got a long way to go before we become what we ought to be. It’s sad that we have to look toward the past in order to figure out “what we need to be” is.

The problem with Obummer is his disingenuousness. His philosophies and actions, along with those of his associates, are not mirrored in his speeches.

This is the stuff that makes me angry….where’s the proof? This is a completely false statement IMO.

Later! Go on with your bashing of America and all that she stands for!

Got to go. Yard work beckons. The BW is gone, so I must do the mowing as well as beating back the jungle.

Have a Blessed Day and remember all our heroes that have put their lives on the line for us, even for Liz.

Fogive me I just woke up. No coffee yet

My impersonator is back so I’m leaving now! Later.

I would have done that earlier for those results

See what I mean? Someone stated his opinion, and now we’re bashing America. Geesh.

Don’t get too excited, John. It doesn’t last.

I will try to contain my excitement. LOL

That’s #17 John ~

well…my last 3 comments have been eaten…..and I was being nice to la Liz….

Oh no – Acorn Liz is here again, trying to disrupt everyone.

Liz….here one for you…..Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
The ball’s in your court….to play nice. By your actions….you will be judged!

I noticed she was here this morning too. But everyone just ignored her attempte to disrupt.
I thought that worked pretty well.

Good morning Liz {in black letters}. A headache? Oh yes, for sure. 2a makes for a long “day” for sure. lol
{So…we have several “liz’s” apparently? One must be watchful to discern, hum? lol}

Okay. I said I would not debate a nincompoop, but I must answer.

How about “There is no pork in this spending bill”. How about “$18 Billion in Pork is just a very small percentage of the total spending”. How about “$18 billion in budget cuts is a very large step in streamlining government spending”. How about going from “3 million jobs created” to “5 million jobs saved”.

The list goes on, but every campaign promise that he has acted on has blown up in his face, and he is still campaigning.

We need a president, not a permanent campaigner. This is not a popularity contest. We have very serious problems, compounded by misguided actions from congress and this administration.

Obummer himself has said “We are out of money”. But that won’t stop him for asking for more.

MD…you are correct, of course. So, consider it done. lol I usually do, however, one is moved a bit, on this day, to comment when normally would scroll past. lol

Ah yes , Mac forgot to re-fresh, my bad.LOL

there was a young girl named Liz,
who tried to give us all the biz,
her attempts often failed,
and her thoughts were nailed,
her ideals were naught but a phizzz!

Olin!!!! ~~laughing~~ We have pledged to do just that, but are drawn in, sometimes. lol MD is right tho, and we should indeed, scroll past…and I am doing that NOW!!! Talk abt a headache…if not read tho, no headache, hum? lol Too many smart and informed, and civil comments, to pause for a comment which is neither of the three. lol

Jimmy!!!!!

did I make a good one Gini? LOL

Just tell yourself we are just being spammed from ” ACORN “

I do believe I need stronger coffee LOL

M. D. what are you going to do if census takes from Acorn knock o your door? I keep thinking of Florida’s right to protect your property, wonder who cleans up the blood?

Personally, I think it’s an invasion of our privacy.
I will probably go to jail.

MD Oh! That’s good, I think? lol Will do! Jimmy…good job, as one would expect fr the “professor”, after all…hum? An advantage, I think, in the area of prose, perhaps? hahahaha!
Our toliz is here
But we have no fear
As all who adhere
Will be here all year!

I guess I won’t pen the door for strangers…..safety, ya know?

That is unless Americans everywhere stand together.
Isn’t that what it will come down to eventually.

If Glen and Bill keep up the good work they doing, we may not have to worry about that group anymore.

ok…going to lunch now…..so I guess la Liz will show up……waits until we leave…then plays hit and run….cause she can’t keep up with a real converstion here….so Liz…if you leave any ugly comments…just remember ….I’lll be back!…..want to play chicken…..then let’s play…..you can play nice…..or have a war…..it’s up to you….
I guess you might really be looking up words in the dictionary now….maybe you are educable!…..that should take up a great deal of your time…. LOL…if you need any help…just ask……we can give you a lot of advise! LOL

I think you are correct MD, and the census is an invasion of privacy, as are the credit collection processes, and so many other things. Along the way, there will prob be a huge outcry for it to stop now, right now. I will prob be dead by then, however, as it takes a while for people to get riled to that point. lol Dead or too old, I think, anyway. lol

Did you catch The Glenn Beck show , with Craig T. Nelson on it.
I could tell how he realy felt, because I feel it to.
Many Americans have really become fed up.

bye Jimmy…have a nice lunch and nap. I have been asked to “leave the deck area”…hahahaha..objected to posts not being nailed up STRAIGHT!!! OMG…oh well, and huge ~~sigh~~ maybe it will be okay, even if not quite STRAIGHT, hum??? ~~laughing very hard now~~ as the wanna beeezzzzzz are carpentering. lol YIKES, I say! lol

Gini,
Honestly I think many Americans are ready to say – OK thats enough.

Hummm…lost that comment MD. lol May post later. I hope you are right, and 2010 will tell the tale. lol 1 2 3 submit!

Gini, it they are carpentering you should get hammered. LOL

I missed that MD, Craig N. The “news of the day” really really upsets dad, so if he is up, I usually will turn to the “cowboy station”. I catch up if I am up at 4a, as has been happening of late, a lot. lol YIKES! Makes for a very long day, however. Don’t like being up quite that early.

Oops, nearly forgot, happy happy horse pill ~

Betty…I think that is an excellent plan, and one that I can implement actually. AND I have cookies fr the personal shopper, to go with, so am okey dokey! hahahaha…whew! They are a hoot for sure. And the post is not straight…now, how am I going to manage looking at that every day, I wonder? Will bother “the eye” for sure. lol YIKES! lol

Funny Betty – I think we should elect Betty to lead us. I like the way she thinks

OH! Forgot it! Geezzzzzz!! No wonder my shoulder is hurting, along with my “brain” hum??? hahahaha! lol Maybe that will take care of both the shoulder and the “headache” Liz (in black letters) spoke of?? lol

MD, Betty would make an excellent leader for sure, and she is smart and quick! OH YES she is…haha! Must pay attn when chatting with herself for sure. lol

LOL, yup them thar headaches sure are contagious….

No no no, not a leader, but I like to have fun………chas would be a much more sensible leader, or Carolyn or Sterling.

Oh dear dear me…they are putting the hand rail up now. YIKES! lol

Is it wavy? Or waving to you? Have another drink!

Well, ok Betty. I’m with MD tho! So you can be in the “cabinet” I guess. lol And one of the others, can be “leader”, okey dokey??? lol OR, YOU can be a CZAR! hummmm???? lol ~~laughing~~ Our new government post, would seem?? lol Comes w/a salary, I understand….

Ok Betty, it’s ok – it wouldn’t matter, I now have a voting phobia anyway.

A Czar is a better post anyway, actually. Lots of power, a good salary, and NO OVERSITE, hum??? OH YES…now, that’s a job!!! lol MD? for sure!!! lol

With all the czars, it looks like voting will be outmoded anyway..

Hmmm – Czar Betty ! ok – when do we get hammered?

Turn on the Jimmy Buffett and let er rip~

It would seem our new government is moving in that direction. Wonder if the congress will notice their power is being pulled right out fr under them, hum?

Yes Betty – We may not be Voting at all In 2012.
Obama will appoint a Czar to run the Country, and he will advance to World Leader.

MD…I am starting NOW!! actually…they are abt to ask me to come and have a look at their handiwork. ~~huge sigh~~ Now, I must be nice, and appreciate their efforts, as they didn’t fix it, and now want to know what I think??? hummm…brb

Under pressure Brown mixes Obama and Omaha
1 hour ago

PARIS (AFP) — Prime Minister Gordon Brown renamed the famed Omaha beach “Obama beach” in a slip-up while giving his D-Day commemoration speech in France on Saturday.

He sure did, and we did hear that live and on t.v. lol Made the daughter laugh right out loud! lol

LOL, don’t get seasick with all the waves Gini ~

Gini, I think Pelosi is wondering a little about things .

It’s all ok! Whew! They did straighten out the post, and it looks ok. lol

Oh, did Julia come back to fix things?

Do you MD? Pelosi is a huge offender of all that is America, I think. I just can’t get a handle on her at all, and what on earth she is or was thinking ever. A huge disappointment, for sure, on all levels, for this one citizen.

Betty

Does that surprise you?

Today’s After the Show Show is up! I don’t know what time it became available (probably after the live stream of the D-Day event ended), but the link from the Fox and Friends page finally shows today’s and not yesterday’s AtSS

It’s a good one … lots of tips from Clayton about how to avoid having your email hacked … and lots of laughs at Dave’s expense for having his email hacked (he used his wife’s name as his password) … but all around, it was good natured fun … thanks, Alisyn, Dave and Clayton for letting your viewers in on it

Sonner or later, those misguided individuals still living in LALA Land, adoring Obummer, must come to the realization that he is just another politician from Chicago (that bastion of honesty in politics).

Whenever I must shake hands with a politician, I garb both hands, to keep one of them out of my pocket, and I count my fingers when I take my hand back.

The fact that he is all about total, uncontrolled, power is the scary part.

Oh no Betty…she ran like a scalded cat, wise woman that she is. She has rehearsal today anyway, and prob didn’t need the aggravation of the “boys” and their capentry skills, hum? lol The boy just hit his hand w/the hammer, speaking of hammers, and is not a happy camper. lol YIKES and OUCH for sure! lol Didn’t want any input fr me, however, so am hushing…haha! lol ouch, I say! lol

what I saw was that Obama started the ball rolling on the Waterboarding – Nancy jumped in big and Obama pulled back from the whole thing.
Then I saw Harry reed do a flip on the getmo thing and the next thing I saw was Obama In Vegas. I assume to give his support to Harry’s re- relection. Then Harry flipped right back.
Did I miss anything here ?

Hi Olin…yes, a wise observation I think? lol In our pockets big time, and wanting even more as the clock ticks down to 2010, when we have another opportunity to hopefully, bring some order. lol We will see, won’t we, in short order, as the clock ticks very very fast, actually. lol

Today’s After the Show Show is up! I don’t know what time it became available (probably after the live stream of the D-Day event ended), but the link from the Fox and Friends page finally shows today’s and not yesterday’s AtSS

It’s a good one … lots of tips from Clayton about how to avoid having your email hacked … and lots of laughs at Dave’s expense for having his email hacked (he used his wife’s name as his password) … but all around, it was good natured fun … thanks, Alisyn, Dave and Clayton for letting your viewers in on it

(sorry if this is a duplicate post … the first one didn’t seem to get posted?)

I have to go for awhile – will be back and catch up later.
cYAs.

I think that about covers it MD…very concise over view, I think. lol

bye MD…I should too, as the day is getting away fr me also. There are a few things I could be doing, even tho the “help” has gone, for the flower bed project. She will return on Monday, however, to get it finished up. lol Not much left to do actually, just has taken a bit longer than it should have, and I am anxious to get it all done!!! lol

Today’s After the Show Show is up! It’s a good one … lots of tips from Clayton about how to avoid having your email hacked … and lots of laughs at Dave’s expense for having his email hacked (he used his wife’s name as his password) … but all around, it was good natured fun … thanks, Alisyn, Dave and Clayton for letting your viewers in on it

I don’t know what time it became available (probably after the live stream of the D-Day event ended), but the link from the Fox and Friends page finally shows today’s and not Friday’s AtSS

(I tried to post this twice already but it seems that my posts were eaten up … my apologies if you see duplicates of this post )

Alisyn, I just want to say THANK YOU! You are a class act!

Liz,

Wherever you are, I want to apolygize for my rudeness that I promised I would not show if you came back to join us. I’m not sure what possessed me. You are an intelligent woman, and it was unfair of me to suggest otherwise. I don’t even know you, so it wasn’t fair of me to say imply you were spoiled, etc. If I am similarly rude to you again, I promise you (and my promises are ironclad) I will leave this blog and never return to it again. My purpose for entering to begin with was to have fun and engage in intelligent conversation with others. My rude comments were neither fun nor intelligent. Although you and I disagree profoundly, I encourage you to keep seeking truth. You’ll eventually find it.
It might surprise you that you remind me of someone I know: ME. You remind me of myself when I was a younger man (I’m nearly 55 now.) When I was about 21 or so, I remember coming back home and trying to educate everyone about how things “really are”. Since that time, I’ve put a few years behind me, and I have been startled to discover that things are not always as they appeared when I was 21. I found out that everything isn’t always black or white, good or evil.
My opinions about our illustrious president are the same. I believe he is too naive about terrorism, too generous with my money, and too “devil may care” about social issues about which I can get very emotional. Sorry, I can’t help myself.

Roy,

Your reaction was understandable. When someone comes along so full of themselves that those who have years of education and experience are accused of being, too stupid to have an opinion, or of being racist or any other degrading things, one tends to take it personally.

I tried numerous times to calm things down but was ignored and received a number of insults and replied in a calmer manner, but not up to my personal standard. That aside, I have opted to ignore the unhealthy attitude and continue to post to those friends I have here.

This has always been a respectful place and disrespect has never been tolerated until the last few weeks. I would hope that that would change, but I have my doubts about any meaningful change taking place any time soon. Continue to join us, it’s easy to ignore someone if you have a little self-control.

chas

Hardly name calling Alisyn…”she” has bashed and name called all along, and I have said little in response. Perhaps today, one is a little more sensitive to it all, as I take care of my father, who fought valiantly, so she could “talk” to her hearts content…a privilege she enjoys, as do I, actually. “She” does not post with impunity, after all, I don’t think, or does she??

Roy,
Now, isn’t that a shame that missy has driven you away. I am sure she is use to getting her own way in all things, as she has been supported nicely, she has said. She has also said, she does not converse with her father on political issues, as he “is not modern thinking”, so there ya are. lol hum??? lol Too sad really, that the person who loves her best, has seen it all, read it all, experienced much of it all first hand, has been deemed “too dumb” to have a conversation with. I think that abt covers it, and just exactly from whence she cometh into our midst, hum?

Ah! And she chges her tune, would seem…a while back that wasn’t the opinion of our little missy, as I recall. lol Not surprising, fr someone who doesn’t know exactly what’s up, perhaps? lol

Sucking up to Ali won’t excuse how you have treated some very nice people here. I don’t care about myself. I can give as good as I get. You should try to understand that perhaps some people view abortion the way they do because they have tried to have babies and are unable to. Maybe someone has had an abortion or their wife or girlfriend did and are regretful. Your comments show not one scintilla of compassion for those real people’s real experiences and memories. They are not just regurgitating stuff they have read or heard in the media or on some of the horrible sites you adore. Maybe others have lost many babies are grieve while others celebrate or condone the destruction of human life. Maybe someone has lost a child in the war that they fought for us under George Bush and do not want to just discount Bush as the loser you think he is. Just think for once that you are not the most important person on the planet or that you know all sides of all issues. You have been very hurtful in your attempt to show us all that you are smart. Smart is not wise though and you should know the difference. Showing off that you can repeat talking points is no substition for what many others here have lived. Just THINK and give others some respect and they might just respect you- if you care at all about that.

A little minute ago, Carolyn, she had nothing nice to say at all about the show. One did wonder why she came to this space at all, as her comments were so untoward. But, like most libs, her tune has changed a bit, to “match the moment”, a tried and true “tactic” of anyone who doesn’t take a stand on anything, but remains in the “middle of the road”, hum??

Liz has said that she is A New Testament and ONLY New testament Christian. Perhaps a little dose of Proverbs wisdom to go along with her learning would benefit her somehow.

Gini:
I remember being just like ACORN Liz more than once in my life and it never turned out well. These leftist whack-os have us all fighting for turf in the political landscape while all the professional politicians continue to take our money and our freedoms. Youngsters just don’t understand as they are too close to the years of being taken care of by mom and dad and see nothing wrong with a Nanny State. They haven’t counted pennies to buy groceries or had to borrow money from a bank to pay rent. They haven’t worked 60 hours a week at hard labor only to not be able to pay the medical bills. THEY HAVE PAID NO DUES!! So many of them have too much time on their hands to surf the net and find all of this garbage that lures them in. I have heard it all from my kids. Their friends are so whacked out on conspiracy theories and negativism that they can barely function. A simple truth: Oil prices were high under Bush, so it was his fault. Written and screamed about for years. Today gas is going up again and not one peep blaming this president. Just simple inconsistencies, easy to follow for even the dullest knife in the drawer and they don’t believe that this is just the tip of the hypocrasy iceberg. Sheesh!!!!

Gini,

I don’t intend to leave–at leat not yet. In the very near future I will have to post much less frequently. I’m going to be gone awhile. I am a teacher and school is OUT. I’m getting ready to travel awhile. Anyway, I only said I would leave if my get whacko again and allow my behavior to degenerate. That isn’t me; and I don’t like being someone else.
I will say to Carolyn that I agree with her. I don’t doubt Liz’ intelligence; but I do seriously question her wisdom. She has been deceived, just as so many millions of Americans have been deceived. Getting a new president is like getting a Christmas present. The wrapping may be shiny withbeautiful bows and ribbons; but its contents are often absolutely atrocious!

Olin… Our Liz only reads that which is given to her, would seem, so there is little hope that is going to happen at all. She has managed to make Roy leave, perhaps, and that’s too bad. I hope he reconsiders and comes back. It’s a shame to loose a thoughtful and smart fan, I think? lol Oh well..and so it goes, I guess. I have been here a while, and am not driven away by “that sort”…but, can occasionally become a bit riled, depending on. Usually stay calm actually, as we all know, opinions are not worth much, actually?? Cookies, on the other hand!!??? hahahaha!!!

Roy…you get to travel?? Where are you going, and I think that’s wonderful. Of course, I think teachers are the unsung hero’s of the day…and always have thought so. We only get to hear abt “the bad ones” unfortunately. The fam is replete with teachers, and they all contributed much more than they got “paid” for….so I think that is one area, where much is sacrificed for the “benefit” of many, hum??? lol I am SO GLAD you are not leaving this “most wonderful place to be”….

Well enough on this subject. I just wanted to express my sadness that it is to easy to blurt out mean things without considering how you may be really hitting someone in the gut. I have done it and had it done to me and I think so many younger people don’t give us older folks and consideration for our real experiences that have formed our opinions.

Carolyn

Did I really read that correctly? After all the bashing that has been done by a new blogger around here for the last couple weeks, Gini and I get a do-better? That really stinks.

Changing the subject for the moment. Earlier, on one of the Fox News business shows, a gentleman was expounding how a user tax on gasoline would only affect those who were using the fuels. Let me present what I believe will be the case.

I have a small business that requires me to provide transportation from my place of business to the work sites. I pay a fairly large monthly fuel bill. The gov approves a user tax on this fuel and all the fuel required to transport goods and services by all companies. All of these businesses will increase the prices of their product to at least cover the increase in fuel costs.

The consumer, the only fuel consumer that has no way to pass along the cost of the fuel he uses, will pay both that tax AND the increased cost of goods and services as a result of that tax.

The end result is that the consumer winds up paying all of the user tax, one way or the other. The same can be said for Cap and Trade taxes and all other energy taxes.

I think the Tax and Spend group knows this, they just won’t admit it. Disingenuous? I thihk SO!!!

Carolyn, thank you for your words. I was unable to have children. I believe that that was in God’s plan, though I think that some here think it’s just biology. But again, I forget that I’m bright enough to have an opinion. Or so I’ve been told.

Well Sterling…I think we always “do better”, so have responded, as I do not think I post “w/impunity” but am answerable to my fellow bloggers, as well as the host of the show. lol In that I have never been disrespectful of either, I am comfy cozy w/everything I have said, and feel no need to apologize to anyone.

Olin…there you go again, talking with some authority about it all. You are risking being called unAmerican. Along the way, wonder what those that don’t have a clue, will think when the food on the shelf at the grocery store sours to huge prices, making “grain” and “dairy” impossible to purchase by “the common worker” bee, hum??? lol It’s already gone too high, of course, and will continue to rise, as they fuel cost is attached to the delivery of it all. hum??? lol And that’s just one important segment of consideration, of course. If one does not have the maturity, to extrapolate that to it’s end, there is no hope, and OF COURSE, they are being disingenuous.

Sterling…these people also think they can control the weather, hum??? So, one does not wonder, they don’t think that the hand of God, is the compass, hum? lol

OH! They won’t think a thing abt it Olin, as they will expect, of course, that it should be given to them, right? How on earth could I have forgotten that…our government will make sure we are fed and clothed and housed, appropriately. lol And of course, given transportation to our place of work, doled out to each, by said government. Didn’t I read this at one time, in a book or two? I am sure there have also been a couple of movies abt this as well, along the way. lol

And, of course, those who have no “value” anymore, will no longer be with us at all…either at birth, b/4 birth, or along the way, hum?

hey folks….how do we know Alisyn made those comments to Liz? It’s very easy to impersonate in here….as we all know ….La Liz does it quite often.
BBL…..

Jimmy! We don’t know, of course…and so it goes in the world of cyber space, hum? lol ha! lol The comments didn’t quite sound like what I am use to actually, so was a bit puzzled. lol Oh well..and so it goes. lol

Roy, as Alisyn so aptly pointed out, misinformation should be corrected. I am 27, so not really that young! I do have a good education thanks to my good ole dad and I appreciate him more than he will ever know! I don’t always agree with his politics and I don’t always agree with yours, and others on this blog. I don’t know how many times I’ve said that I’m not a liberal. I’m Independent, but I voted for Obama for all the reasons I’ve spelled out on this blog. I’m sorry that the die-hard ultra-conservatives here want to slam me for my beliefs that don’t coincide exactly with theirs. I guess they can do that, but it’s not very respectful, and I was raised to be respectful. However, when I don’t get respect I don’t give it. I believe that some think I was planted here by some left-wing organization, but I can assure you that’s not true.

If I offended anyone here I’m sorry, and if you want me to I will go away. Sterling, I understand why abortion is such a sore issue with you and I’m very sorry that I was so harsh. It’s just that you seem to think your opinion (about everything) is the only one that matters. That’s just how you came across to me. Please accept my sincere apology.

OK, I’ll leave now! Everyone have a great day.

There ya are…w/your die hard conservative remarks. YOU haven’t listened at all, being so busy deciding what everyone else believes. YOU don’t have a clue, at all, but are right and ready to bash anyone at all who disagrees with. Your apology? hummm…you haven’t said one word that even comes close to an apology, including your remarks to Sterling…that is not an apology at all. Not at all…you are not a nice person Liz.

I won’t apologize for what I believe Gini. My beliefs have not changed and if I decide to argue a point, I will. That’s called debate – ever hard of it? YOU are just bashing ME! Go back and re-read your post! I never said you were not a nice person, and I never will…because I don’t know enough about you to make that call.

Again, have a nice day!

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Liz…you were welcomed with open arms by everyone on this blog. You immediately called everyone out, for being “ultra conservative”. An apology is not an apology, unless meant by the person making the apology. You obviously do not mean it at all. No one has ever suggested you can’t have your point of view on this site. You have consistently however, made it your business to tell everyone their thinking is wrong headed and “not modern”, hum?? You are wrong about the people who blog here, and have one huge nerve to come on this site and tell everyone who they are and presume to tell everyone who they should be. IF you really felt bad abt it all, you could just say, I’m sorry. You can’t, cause you’re not at all. Ah…an age thang, you see, so one does recognize an apology when it is given, and when it is not sincere at all. lol One day you will too…

Oh but Liz, you certainly did…oh! of course, however, you are all over the map, so you don’t remember what you have said at all, now do you. You, I repeat, are not a nice person.

The same logic used for “User Taxes” can be applied to health care.

What I am seeing from this administration is troubling, because it goes way beyond socialism.

In true socialism, everyone contributes to the common good.

The system that is developing here has both contributors and contributees, with less and less contributors on the horizon. I don’t know the demographics, but I somehow think that the majority of taxpayers are over fifty.

Olin,
I think that is a fair analogy…and we are about to find out if it’s so, aren’t we. lol We wait patiently for the other shoe to drop, and wonder who is going to pay for it all. Well…we know it will be our grandchildren and their grandchildren, and no one will be served at all, one might think? Or so history might indicate anyway. lol

Comment by Liz
June 6th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Loren, I don’t think it’s fair to just let that junk fall out of your mouth! Obama is trying to build bridges that were destroyed…and most of the world commends him! We all know he’s Christian.

Comment by Alisyn Camerota
June 6th, 2009 at 9:58 am
You make a good point Liz. It’s a tall order to stamp out misinformation.

Comment by Sterling
June 6th, 2009 at 9:13 am
LOL, Gini. Calling them like you see them again, in this very nice place to be. But please don’t forget, there’s only one here who bashes, bullys, and insults, and it’s not you. But then, I’m not bright enough to understand, and I need to take a college course on Government 101, (even if I do know that America is a republic and NOT a democracy, I’m still the one who needs the college course, LOL) Carol needs to take an economics course, and the rest of us are not allowed to express our malformed opinions about anything AND we need to change the channel from Fox. Does that about cover it?

Comment by Alisyn Camerota
June 6th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Where was the bashing and bullying and insulting until now? Weren’t we having a civilized discourse? Let’s start fresh tomorrow, can we?

Our host seems to think it is perfectly fine to have a conversation, which may include different opinions. Perhaps we can??????? Just sayin, Alisyn seems to think differences are a good thing and noone… should be excluded ..;-)

If my memory serves me correctly, and I can go back and copy and paste if need be… that at least one or two people on this blog seem to think that we should never have allowed “them” the right to vote? Ya know I don’t really want to go there…. Buttttt let’s be honest folks. not everyone is coming from a fair and balanced postion….

Thankfully, I am not in the habit of changing my opinions at the drop of a hat, hum? My view and comments are consistent and unchanged, as I do NOT stand in the “middle of the road” at all, ever, so am not confused along the way at all, hum?

The exclusion is not on the part of the bloggers here on this site, which is consistently nice, smart, informed and welcoming to everyone who posts here. lol Copy and paste all you like…that is a statement of truth, and one could parse it to death, I guess. Go for it kiddo. By all means. lol

I don’t think you will get much positive conversation however, as much would be taken out of context, a lib trick, used often by skilled people, for sure….so one wouldn’t be at all surprised to find it happening here on this space, which has stayed nice for a long time now. Prob because only nice people come here, hum?

Gini…I think you and I, and Pat should go back and cut and paste a few choice emails, maybe? LOL

Ah Jimmy…I don’t think so at all, really. This conversation is a waste of time. One cannot argue with people who speak in circles, after all. lol I would be sorry to see anyone driven away by those who come here to just be mean spirited. That happens occasionally, now doesn’t it. They leave eventually, when they become bored with it all. lol In the mean time, one just endures it all. I am a bit negative today, which is not my usual mood, of course, so prob should go pull a weed or two out of the yard? Dad is restless today, so turned on music for him…some light classical, and he is resting comfy in his nice big chair. lol

ok Gini…..the higher road, indeed….see y’all later today at the bunker LOL

For sure Jimmy…might turn a movie on, to change this mood I seem to be in, hum? lol ha ha! lol Just got a bit tired of it all, you know? That does happen, even to those who would not usually go there at all. lol hahaha! I am, after all, the cookie and comfort lady, hum? lol And he did bring cookies home today…so I am smilin’ abt that. lol

Comment by Liz
May 17th, 2009 at 6:18 am
You people are going too far today trying to incite a riot at the Notre Dame commencement ceremony. Don’t try to ruin it for these graduates by suggesting that “protesting students” try to unplug the microphone while Obama is giving his speech. The president of Notre Dame had nothing but good things to say about Obama yesterday and the protesting students plan to be peaceful. As far as I’m concerned George Bush has more blood on his hands — starting 2 wars, executing 100+ prisoners in Texas, and that’s just the beginning, yet nobody protested his speech at Notre Dame. He never tried to repeal Roe v. Wade either, did he? Stop playing partisan politics. It doesn’t become you!!!

May 17th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Why don’t you people ever talk about the failed Bush presidency and what you might do to win back “defectors” (like me) to the Democrats. I never voted for a Democrat in my life until Obama, and I decided to do that after watching panic-stricken Hank Paulson begging Congress for $700 billion only a few days after McCain said the economy was fundamentally sound. Where was Bush during his presidency….on vacation?

As for the abortion issue….I am NOT pro abortion but I am not for criminalizing it and watching it become a criminal enterprise once again. Since 1972 when Roe v. Wade became law has any Republican president tried to repeal it? NO! Why not? Answer that for me please…..you people with all the answers.

Comment by Liz
May 17th, 2009 at 7:09 am
I’ve never posted much on political boards and I always liked Fox when I was Republican. My favorite show was the morning show with Edie and Madcow. I was totally disillusioned by Bush….Bushwhacked I guess you could say. What bothered me most were his communication skills. It’s hard to believe he graduated from Yale and he can’t communicate. Most of his decisions after 9-11 were dead wrong. I don’t believe in the Bush Doctrine. Ronald Reagan was my favorite president…..and he had so much charisma. I would really like to see the Republican party choose a platform and stop being so negative….and aligning with people like Cheney & Limbaugh. Limbaugh puts us back in the stone age as far was women are concerned. A few days ago he said, “if women want equal rights, then Nancy Pelosi has to resign.” Are my rights dependent on Nancy Pelosi’s decision to resign or not? I don’t think so!!!

Become the party of “YES” and not the party of “NO” and I will revisit sometime. I don’t care if you believe me or not, I’m being totally honest, which is more than I can say for most posters here.

Comment by Liz
May 17th, 2009 at 7:28 am
I guess abortion is the issue of the day huh? Why is it still legal after all the convservatives we’ve had in office over the years? Is it because the alternative would have more dire consequences?

Comment by Liz
May 17th, 2009 at 7:49 am
I try not to project my morality on anyone else. I don’t believe it’s moral, no. I do, however, think it should be legal and safe. Before it was legal it was a criminal enterprise and unqualified people were performing it. There were many more deaths as a result and that’s why we legalized it. It’s a private matter between you and your God, and no one else. It shouldn’t even be debated. I do believe that late term abortions should be illegal however. Nuff said. Many conservatives agree with me.

Comment by Liz
May 18th, 2009 at 10:52 am
You conservatives seem to think liberals (Democrats) are immoral…and that’s so WRONG! During the Vietnam war Catholics were almost 100% Democrat. That’s a fact!

Comment by Liz
May 19th, 2009 at 6:18 am
OK, well they just refused to put on another post, so I give up. Have fun here with the sore losers, but be careful who you listen to and keep an open mind.

Comment by Liz
May 19th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
OK you guys…I just had another long post disappear. I’m going to have to stop talking about Cheney because when I talk about him my post disappears. So, I will talk about Michael Steele instead. He is the embodiment of everything that’s wrong with the Republican Party today. People are turned off by his negative attitude and accusations against everyone in the Democratic party, bar none. He’s talking about Obama’s demeanor and what a great orator he is, but that he’s “bankrupting” our country. Sorry, Michael, the Bush admin. already did that. He’s trying to fix it. If Michael was positive and would offer up some “viable” solutions, maybe he would be taken seriously.

Comment by Liz
May 19th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Gini,

You seem like a nice lady, but are you here for chitchat or is this blog for political opinions…or discussion about subjects on Fox & Friends? Sorry, I’m confused. There are plenty of chitchat sites you could use. Would you like me to find a nice one for you and Sal?

Liz

Liz
May 19th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
That’s great! I’m usually not around on Saturdays, but have a great holiday weekend. BTW if you get a chance watch Becky Quick’s interview with Warren Buffett on CNBC. If there’s anyone whose opinion on the economy I trust, it’s his! He’s a very warm, friendly person as well. It’s on right now, but I’m sure they will repeat it.

I would never believe Hannity or Beck. They “twist” the truth and use scare tactics. Tonight Hannity is talking about the “Socialist States of America”! Puleeeeeze! What a freak he is! “My way or the highway Hannity.” I wish Fox would put on some real economists and not just entertainers. If they would put on a show that’s not completely slanted to the far right I would watch a lot more.

Have a great evening

Comment by Liz
be careful who you listen to and keep an open mind.
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words of wisdom , Liz! try following them! LOL

Comment by Liz
May 20th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Sal, what did Michael Steele say? The speech had absolutely no substance! Did I miss something?

He’s bitter and he didn’t outline any plan! Do you know something I don’t? If so, let us all in on it please!

Thanks!

May 21st, 2009 at 5:22 am
I’m sure everyone here saw Beck on The View….how sad. Not even Elizabeth would defend him. She’s a frequent guest on different Fox shows. I wonder if Fox will keep him on. Thoughts?

It’s really sad what’s happening to the GOP. They have pretty much decided that they are going to do nothing but fight everything that’s put before them for the next four years….kind of a dead party at the moment. I would really like to see them reinvent themselves, but I’m afraid it’s not going to happen. The moderates are pretty much gone and the ultra conservative, angry, hostile, extreme right wing is left. What are they going to do? John McCain seems to be in hiding with Bush. Colin Powell has spoken up, but he just gets put down by the party. Are they going to alienate everyone?

Thoughts?

Here’s the clip from youtube Gini…I’m sorry, but I just can’t believe a word this guy says. He’s nothing but a drama queen (king)! He just says what’s on his mind and never checks his facts.

It saddens me to see what’s going on today. I was raised in a Republican household and I always voted Republican until the last election. I’ve already told you why.

Bush retired just like his dad did. Daddy Bush even became friends with Clinton. It was kinda cool to see that.

I’m sorry, but I can’t drink the koolaid that’s all over Fox these days. Some of my favorite shows were on Fox until the bottom fell out of the economy thanks to crooks running wild on Wall Street while no one was minding the store. That’s what deregulation does….brings out the crooks! I’m sorry to see Capitalism die, but nobody is honest anymore. CEO salaries are obscene, while the workers can’t even unionize? What’s wrong with this picture? Everything!!! There are no more Lee Iococa’s out there.

May 21st, 2009 at 11:35 am
Are you a CEO Sterling? If not, are you independently wealthy? Do you keep your money offshore to avoid paying taxes? If not, then why are you Republican? It’s turned into the rich man’s party. They don’t seem to care if the middle class exists or not. Well, I have news….without the middle class who is going to be spending money? Don’t they deserve to make an honest living? If we didn’t have unions, the large corporations would be importing Mexicans by the thousands to work in all the factories here. They work for peanuts, especially if they are illegal. IBM just laid off 5,000 workers and sent their jobs to India….professional jobs!

Lee Iococca did not take a salary from Chrysler until he got them back into the black back in the early 80’s. How many CEO’s would do that today? I’ll tell you…..none. The bankers ran the banking system into the ground and then had the audacity to take large bonuses at taxpayers expense. I’m sorry, but that’s not ethical and it’s not the “American” way! It’s pure greed and we have to change that. If that takes a little socialism, then so be it. Nobody is buying into the way the old system worked. Too many Americans lost their jobs in a recession that never should have happened. They are angry. Do you blame them?

Comment by Liz
May 21st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I never suggested that we move towards socialism and definitely not communism!!! Republicans are the ones who call it Socialism, not the Dems. We need oversight, especially on Wall Street. Madoff threw attention off the really bad guys….the bank CEO’s and Hank Paulson, who comes from Goldman Sachs. Anyway, what’s done is done and I didn’t see McCain as the answer. My dad about had a heart attack when I told him I voted for Obama. I don’t talk politics with him anymore, needless to say.

I started listening to Keith and Rachel and they started to make alot sense to me. Pretend you’re a Democrat and listen to them sometime. I know lots of people who have lost their jobs here in Michigan — mostly auto industry related. My sister and her husband got buyouts from Chrysler, luckily, but they are too young to retire. My sister found another job at a good company, but her husband is having trouble. They may have to leave the state.

I am not from a poor family — upper middle class. My dad retired from GM and he has no worries. He’s the last of a dying breed. He was an engineer. Now those jobs are farmed out — to India, among other places in the world. If you walk around the campus at the University of Michigan you will see lots of foreigners who come here to get educated, then go home and take away American jobs. If I sound bitter, maybe I am. I am self employed and doing OK so far, but I have lost some business since last Fall.

More later…out of characters! LOL

Comment by Liz
May 21st, 2009 at 8:58 pm
That’s fine with me chas. Please don’t respond to me. You sound like you’ve gulped down the bitter koolaid of the new Republican party. Show me ANYTHING you can find where any of the Democrats said we are switching from Democracy to Socialism. They love to throw that word around on the Fox Network, but I haven’t heard it anywhere else, except from John McCain during the campaign. Don’t you think he is strangely silent now? What do you attribute that to?

I’m sorry for you chas….I hope you can get happy. Don’t be paranoid. I’m sure we will be safe and Socialism will never rear its ugly head in this country. In fact, I’m confident about that. Have a nice night.

Have a nice life chas….I hope you can be happy and more accepting of other viewpoints — or at least able to discuss things without name calling and nastiness. Partisanship will be the downfall of this country someday. I always wondered how Mary Matalin could have married James Carvelle

Liz
May 22nd, 2009 at 7:25 am
DogOnCrack, what a “troll” you are! LMAO! Too funny. You are the one who needs education dawg! What is your hidden agenda? Who gives you your marching orders? I don’t take orders from anyone, but I’m sure you do!

Comment by Liz
May 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 am
Bye Gini. It’s quite obvious to me that no one here is open to debate, so I’ll just move along…that should prove I have no hidden agenda. Have a nice life everyone. Don’t worry…be happy!

Comment by Liz
May 22nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
Yikes! You sound like Cheney….now that’s scary! BTW, God would not be happy with you. He doesn’t like war. Guns for self protection….absolutely. I agree with that. Let Satan have the middle east (the Devil’s playground) and get us out of there. No more American lives should have to be sacrificed over there. We need to protect our own borders and keep them out of here! I get a sick feeling in my gut every time I drive by the Mosque off the freeway just about 10 miles from where I live.

If you stop mentioning me I will go away. Just don’t mention me again and I’m outta here. Otherwise I might come back. It’s up to you crackhead!

Comment by Liz
May 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Thanks Gini, but I think this site is about as mean-spirited as they come! I haven’t said anything mean that I can think of (well, maybe except calling the dawg a crackhead, but he started it). LOL

Have a wonderful weekend Gini. You are the only nice one here. Actually, Sterling is respectful as well.

Everyone else pretty much thinks their own individual opinions are infallible….like Hannity wannabees. They sure haven’t changed my mind about anything. I think they are just die-hard Republicans who think the party can do no wrong. I think they’ve done a lot wrong…..but there are bad Democrats as well.

Later….maybe!

Comment by Liz
May 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I just looked at the Dawg’s site! I’ll have to read more later. I hope he doesn’t smoke too much. Looks like cigarettes, not crack. I like the pic of the old hippies….his parents perhaps? I hope he’s not a redneck racist like he says…that’s just wrong in my opinion.

What kind of proof do you want Gini? I’ve provided a few links to support my positions. Is it ok for Glenn Beck to talk (and lie) off the top of his head, but not anyone else? After all he is a commentator and he doesn’t have to check his facts. I like the stuff he’s doing about ACORN now. Why don’t you Google ACORN and find out about the contributions made by former Republican presidents Reagan and Bush, among others. If anyone is interested I will provide a link about that. If you’re as well informed as you state, you should already know.

Maybe I’ll look into that site more, but I don’t think I would agree with the Dog about anything. Maybe his bark is worse than his bite! Maybe not!

My only beef Gini is that the Fox Network shows seem to dwell on trivial issues…things that most people just really don’t want to hear about. We are all Americans and we should come together and try to get along for the good of everyone. That’s where I stand. The Republicans were in power for 8 years and now it’s the Democrats turn. I don’t think either party has EVER been in office for more than 8 years at a time. I could be wrong but I don’t think so. It was time for a change. The Democrats can’t possibly mess things up any more than they already are. Oh, I know you think they can, but I don’t. You might be biased, but I’m not. I’m willing to give them a chance. I hope you will too!

There WAS an After the Show Show today after all, and it’s up! If you haven’t viewed it yet, it’s a good one … lots of tips from Clayton about how to avoid having your email hacked … and lots of laughs at Dave’s expense for falling prey to a hacker (Dave had used his wife’s name as his password) … but all around, it was good-natured fun.

Thanks, Alisyn, Dave and Clayton, for letting your viewers in on it

I don’t know what time the AtSS became available (it wasn’t streaming in the minutes after Alisyn signed off at 8:30 a.m. this morning before the D-Day special, and the link from the Fox and Friends page was still showing Friday’s AtSS at that time, but the new one for today is there now!)

(WordPress is really frustrating … I tried to post this a few times already but it seems that my posts were eaten up …. why, I don’t know … there are no bad words in it! Anyway, I’ve kept trying to post again so that y’all won’t miss the excellent tips in today’s AtSS)

Comment by Liz
May 23rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Thanks Richard. I was beginning to think this was like all the other Fox blogs. They diss my opinion and tell me I don’t know anything, but they never tell me what they DO know. I don’t think they know much. I did take a few courses in political science. I don’t think anyone here is really very educated. They don’t back up anything they say.

Comment by Liz
May 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
200+ IQ Dog and 2 degrees….unbelievable! I bet you think Sarah Palin is smart, but her IQ is only 100. Carolynro….. I looked at your website….u gotta be kidding me! This is a scary place….I’ll leave you all to your fantasy world!

I was wrong thinking there were some nice people here….not sure why I dropped in really. It was a huge mistake. Misery loves company and all you miserable people here were made for each other. Have fun!

I don’t know how any of you can call yourselves Christians and Republicans in the same breath…but that is between you and your maker.

Bye!

May 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Dog, you do look like you’re on crack….nice pic! I guess that’s not really a cigarette huh? If not Republican, what are you? (not that I care)

BTW, Cheney is still on Haliburton’s payroll….he gets over $1 million a year from them and he fed them “unbid” contract after contract while he was VP….but I’m sure you all know that! If you don’t, Google it. Not hard to find.

Try not to promote hatred. It’s not a good way to win back the moderate Republicans who “defected” to the other side, and it’s really un-American. We are about acceptance and tolerance. If you don’t like it, you can always “defect” to Canada….they need more population. You would like their form of government…..Monarchy. God save the Queen! I’m near the border and I visit Canada a lot….beautiful country, friendly people, healthcare after you’ve lived there 6 months….many things we don’t have.

It’s been “real”….bye!

Geezz..no wonder I feel so beat up! lol

Comment by Liz
May 24th, 2009 at 6:47 am
The ignorance I see here blows my mind. Most of the world is far beyond us in medicine and they don’t have to deal with our rigid FDA! I know many Canadians and they like their health care system. It had a few bugs in the beginning, but they’ve pretty much been worked out and they can get the best specialists when they need them now.

Have fun ripping on everyone you people rip on. I can find better ways to spend my time. I have not posted one thing that is “false”…..you people are liars. I really feel bad that you are so angry, and I mean it. Get a life….and get some education!

Comment by Liz
May 24th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Thanks Lori…I am just saddened by the way some of these people have no respect for the office of President of the US. The reason I first started posting here was because I heard one of the Fox Sunday morning crew suggest last week that some students unplug the microphone at the graduation ceremony at Notre Dame. I couldn’t believe my ears. And we wonder why our children act out the way they do….poor little Piper. What are these people teaching their children? I’m very worried about the path we’re going down here. When I was in school we were taught that we should respect the President, whether or not we agreed with him. If we don’t, let him know with protests, etc. but we shouldn’t encourage outright hatred and sabotage, which is what I’m seeing so much of.

Anyway, have a nice day Lori. I’m off to church.

Comment by carolynro
May 24th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Where were you when the graduates from Columbia University turned their backs on President Bush when he gave the commencement address?
Comment by Liz
May 24th, 2009 at 8:58 am
My arrogance??? That’s funny! What about yours? I’ll pray for you Carolyn…lose your hate.

Maybe the students at Columbia were against the war, I don’t know. I was too. That’s a form of protest. .But to unplug the microphone when Obama is not pro-abortion is ludicrous. Only about 25 students were protesting…peacefully…and the rest came in on busses.

Barbara and Laura Bush and Condi Rice were NOT for overturning Roe v. Wade! Check your facts! Bush had a lot more blood on his hands than Obama. Stop making mountains out of nothing! BTW, I voted for Bush. He disappointed me, but I would never disrespect him. He has to live with himself.

Comment by Liz
May 24th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Sorry Ed, you are wrong….check your facts! I know people who use it, but don’t take my word for it. Do some research. If you find something bad about it, post it here. Carol, the students at Columbia were protesting Bush’s policies…and that’s fine. Here’s a blurb from the News that day….

Thirty to 40 demonstrators — some opposed to the war in Iraq, others critical of the prescription drug program — gathered across the street from the auditorium. MU freshman Nick Pretnar, wearing aviator sunglasses and a pope costume, said it was worth making the half-hour trip from Columbia to express his disapproval of Bush.

It wasn’t the same as protesting at a Commencement speech, especially when Obama’s policy on abortion is the same as Bush’s. Roe v. Wade is still intact. Bush’s mother, wife and Condi Rice support Roe v. Wade. As for stem cell research, Obama is promoting cord blood research and other research, NOT embryonic research. Bush banned all of it, which was ludicrous. That’s why people go to Europe for treatment….like Farrah Fawcett going to Germany…we are behind them now.

No wonder we all felt so beat up!!! Yikes! lol

Carolyn, get help! That’s all I have to say. Everything you post is angry and twisted. I shouldn’t respond to those types of posts, I know. When you copied and pasted mine you didn’t post the ones I responded to…selective deletion huh!

Lori, these people have a “bunker” somewhere. Maybe it’s a “secret society”?!? It’s pretty sick whatever it is. I regret now that I ever told them about myself. I feel like I need to be looking over my shoulder from now on. Go ahead and take back your blog! Newcomers are not welcome to post opposing views…that is quite obvious. You could be labeled a “libturd” and stalked.

Comment from Liz
May 24th, 2009 9:43am

won’t bother to respond to the obvious koolaid drinking idiots. Watch the movie and be your own judge. Remember that drug companies and insurance companies have very powerful lobbyists. Our government doesn’t work for us….they work for primarily special interest groups, as I’m sure you all know. We the people need to change that and we should model our health care system after the best one in the world. There are a few to choose from. We just have to get around the lobbyists and make it happen.

Carolyn, get help! That’s all I have to say. Almost all your posts are angry and spun. I shouldn’t respond to those types of posts, I know. When you copied and pasted mine you didn’t post the ones I responded to…selective deletion huh!

Lori, these people have a “bunker” somewhere. Maybe it’s a “secret society”?!? I regret now that I ever told them about myself. I feel like I need to be looking over my shoulder from now on. Go ahead and take back your blog! Newcomers are not welcome to post opposing views…that is quite obvious. You could be labeled a “libturd” and stalked.

Comment by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Yeah, I used to think that too, but Michael Moore is right on! Next time you watch Fox & Friends count the number of commercials for pharmaceuticals and insurance companies…then if you still want to drink the koolaid, go ahead! Advertisers dictate content!
ent by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 11:47 am
You can dish it out Sterling, but you can’t take it? What is your profession in healthcare, and what can you say to back up your comments? Why are you against healthcare for everyone? They are getting it now anyway and it’s breaking the system. I know single moms on Medicaid and they shouldn’t have to be. There are more and more everyday and the system will be broken soon! What happens when the baby boomers are all on Medicare? YOU TELL ME! Give answers, not insults!

Comment by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Dog & Sterling…..the elderly DO get treated in the United States, whether we can afford it or not. The drug companies give them free drugs if they can’t afford them. They also have Medicare. We are paying higher taxes because of it. Why not put a system in place that works for everyone? It wouldn’t cost much more. Costs can be kept down when managed properly, and no one would have to go broke before qualifying for it. Our country could be much more prosperous. We just have to do it right. Norway is a good example. Be sure to watch that Michael Moore film…you will learn something….and get more wrinkles in your brains! I don’t mean to put you down, but when the Constitution was written we didn’t have this problem! Think about that!

Sterling, what exactly are your credentials? Are you going to tell us or not?

Comment by Liz
May 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Richard and Lynn….my only buds here I guess. I just think you are all drinking lots of koolaid and you don’t think for yourselves. I have some conservative views and some liberal views. How can you think totally one way? I don’t understand that at all. I’m am NOT for war, unless we are threatened. I am NOT for abortion. I DO NOT support torture of any kind. I am FOR NATIONAL HEALTHCARE because our system is broken and we have to do something very soon….and many of you just don’t understand that. I liked Michael Moore’s movie…he put a lot into that movie and just because you think he’s liberal doesn’t mean you should hate him. Rush Limbaugh and Hannity are not tolerant of any views but their own….they drown out what they don’t want to hear. I see a lot of that going on here as well. All I’m asking is that you use your brains. You don’t have to agree 100% with everything said on Fox. I actually like some Fox shows, but I’m not ready to admit which ones yet. I’ll just say I agree with Huckabee about a lot of things…..and disagree about a few things. Glenn Beck makes me want to puke because I think he’s a complete phony.

Anyway, I don’t dislike anyone, but I don’t particularly like people who try to shove their views down someone else’s throat…..there are a few like that here and they know who they are. I won’t be mean and name them.

Have a nice day everyone

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Comment by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Nora, you forgot to mention the soldiers who died fighting Cheney’s war. Their families were not compensated like the victims of 9/11, and they suffered much more senseless deaths. If waterboarding is such a piece of cake, I’d like to see Cheney volunteer to demonstrate it. He never even served in the military.

Let’s protect our borders!!!

May 25th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Yes Linda, but any torture puts us on the same level as the terrorists, and that’s not where we want to be! We are better than them! You’re right….eye for an eye is not the Christian way, although some think it is. We just need to keep them out of here. They are going to be fighting each other forever, as in the past. There has never been peace in the middle east that I know of, and there never will be. It’s the devil’s playground. We can’t win there.

May 25th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I don’t respond to you Sterling….you drink too much koolaid! What do you think my agenda is? It’s peace bro!

AND FROM HERE ON IT PRETTY MUCH IS A VARIATION ON THIS THEME:
by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Just for the record, I am NOT conservative or liberal….I’m AMERICAN! I have no agenda posting on this blog. I don’t like the name calling and insults that go on here, and I’m trying to get some intelligent conversation going, which seems next to impossible, but I might keep trying.

Comment by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Chas & Carol…stop being so disrespectful! You are in the Doghouse!
Comment by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Marine, are you drinking koolaid? Sounds like Fox koolaid! I never heard Obama apologize for anything!
by Liz
May 25th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Yikes, I’ve caused someone to leave? Well, it seems to me that Sterling doesn’t like to discuss anything and is very narrow minded. If he detects someone from the “rabid left” then he gets all flustered. I am not from that sphere, but he apparently thinks I am and is somehow threatened by my comments. He attacked me several times…after telling me once that I have a right to my opinion. Alas, he changed his mind about that!

Here is the truth (substantiated by investigative reporting) on a trivial matter made into a big deal by the drive-by media: Glenn Beck did NOT lie on “The View”! That show of opinionated women is not one that I waste my time watching, but it seems that the lies about him are not being refuted, so check this out from TV Newser:

Breitbart.TV’s Scott Baker breaks down how Beck actually wasn’t lying about the Amtrak incident.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=352443&widget=1

I really cannot agree with the assertion that “the Fox Network shows seem to dwell on trivial issues…things that most people just really don’t want to hear about” … the facts are that most people prefer the Fox News Channel over their competitors. The FNC ratings beat both the two other cable news competitors combined (the statistics are posted regularly on TV Newser — see for example, http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_wednesday_june_3_118198.asp#more)

May 26th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Scare tactics carol & dog!!! very funny! You 2 don’t own the blog, so tone it down OK!?!
Comment by Liz
May 26th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Carol, that’s all a bunch of BS and I think you know it. Post a link that shows his refusal, or don’t lie. Bush let in the illegals so his corporate buds could hire cheap labor…another lie! States decide how to distribute welfare…another lie. You’re right about employers not being able to afford healthcare, however, because that’s how broken the system is. For once we find truth in Carol! Amazing!
Comment by Liz
May 26th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Carolyn, it’s hard to believe that you are a teacher because of the way you bully others. What did you do with bullys in your classroom….encourage them?

Comment by Liz
May 26th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Mandatory health insurance in Massachusetts was Gov. Mitt Romney’s solution. It was a bad one!

Carolyn, I’m surprised you like Rush Limbaugh. He hates women! LOL

I apologize to anyone who thinks he’s someone! I used to listen to him before I found out what a hypocrite he is because of his drug problem, but I can understand why he needs drugs. It must be painful to carry around that large frame of his.

Need I post more?

Comment by Gini
June 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

Liz…you were welcomed with open arms by everyone on this blog. You immediately called everyone out, for being “ultra conservative”. An apology is not an apology, unless meant by the person making the apology. You obviously do not mean it at all. No one has ever suggested you can’t have your point of view on this site. You have consistently however, made it your business to tell everyone their thinking is wrong headed and “not modern”, hum?? You are wrong about the people who blog here, and have one huge nerve to come on this site and tell everyone who they are and presume to tell everyone who they should be. IF you really felt bad abt it all, you could just say, I’m sorry. You can’t, cause you’re not at all. Ah…an age thang, you see, so one does recognize an apology when it is given, and when it is not sincere at all. lol One day you will to…..
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Point and match, I think? lol

Yep, Gini.

Ah Carolyn aka Carol. Well done, and a reminder that all is not as it seems, hum? lol She is “all over the map” as suggested, and does have a hard time remembering, for sure. And has changed her mind as well, about the “crew of F&F on the weekends” apparently, hum? ha! lol But, not unexpected at all. She dised her da, after all, for being “too old and not modern thinking”…and that speaks volumes, to a “seasoned” citizen, every time. lol hum? lol

ALRIGHT! That is enough.

P&P, I have said this a number of times and this is the last I will say it. If you can’t ignore it, then don’t come. Simple as that.

Liz, You are not here to debate or learn. In my many years of being on political sites I have seen people like you come and go. Post your opinion, but no matter how much you protest I know your motivation is to disrupt.

You have so far accomplished that, you shall not bait me, nor shall your rants go unread however, I have been and will continue to ignore your post since they have no merit in my humble opinion.

But the baiting has to stop, unless you are too juvenile to withhold that normally toxic pen of yours.

Should you become a more respectful blogger I could change my opinion, but those who cannot keep their word have a very long road to recovery in my eyes. Just because Ms Alisyn has not read your more inflammatory remarks in time past, doesn’t mean she can’t see how you have been posting. Of that I can be certain.

What I am saying is that we could get along if you would just stop thinking you know everything and stop being what you accuse others of, being self-righteous . Heaven knows I wish I know just a little bit. But I am wise enough to know that I know I don’t know enough.

TBC

I warned of this before, but this continued hostility may result in the blog being shut down at the end of the show. It would not be the first time it has happened. And if that is your goal, then you are moving in that direction.

I’m pretty sure we would all regret that in the long run.

Grow up. No one is going to change anyone’s mind here and we are ALL entitled to our opinion, but not entitled to shove it down someone’s throat time after time after time.

Sorry for the length and any hurt feelings. But I am sick of this and so should you all.

chas

Well Chas…ok then! lol Back to my seat then, with cookies in hand. A more comfy place to be for sure. lol Do you really think Aly wants us all gone??? That would be too sad to contemplate, hum? Vigorous debate, maybe? lol Hummm…must cogitate on that for a sec, and the definition of, perhaps. lol

All my posts from 3:04 PM and on until 4:00 pm today were copied and pasted from the greenroom blog from May 17 forward and are “Liz’s” comments even though the “Comment by Liz” did not get copied on all of them. Alisyn: I did this because we have been baraged by this tone for over 4 weeks now, not just today when you finally noticed that things went to heck when she showed up again today. Having a discourse of ideas is one thing, but just yelling and insulting is another. Many of us have tried and failed to resist responding. But, then new people show up all the time and they also respond to her argmentative tone and wish to defend their opinions and this seems to escalate her again. I take responsibility for my lack of control. I do not speak for anyone else. I have vowed to not acknowledge her a couple of times and have failed because she attacks my friends- the real ones and the ones on Fox! LOL. I will try again to help to end the negativity here.

Comment by carolynro
June 5th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Hi Roy:
Thank you. The sad thing about “Liz” or whoever she is is this: she came here with a goal sponsored by either entitlement, ignorance, intolerance, a group who is paying her to distrupt, or complete naivte, or all of the above. The stubborn refusal to hear paired with her lack of control of her emotions is typical of young people these days. These are the kids who will cut you off on the road and then flip you off even though they were in the wrong. These are the same kids who collect food stamps while in college and then go to the tanner and nail salon every week. They can do no wrong and think they entire world revolves around them and that no one else has any right to call them on it. It is a disease that Obama has capitalized upon. “I want something for nothing and don’t you dare interfere with my pursuit of the best of everything even though I never worked for it or earned it”.

Carolyn…hum. I don’t believe you are the negative one here. I stand by the original statement, that all are welcome here, always. So, if it stops that would be a good thing, I think? We’ll see if it does indeed, or if there is yet more to come. I stand right there by your side kiddo…as I am not confused at all, hum? lol {a benefit of ’seasoned’ perhaps?} ~~giggle~~ lol With cookies in hand, of course. lol

Comment by carolynro
May 31st, 2009 at 8:34 am
Why do YOU think Obama didn’t help Michelle out of the limo? Don’t you remember how he came out alone to accept the nomination? He does alot of things alone as he is the One. He is unable to be think about anyone else unless he thinks he can pick their pocket.

A cookie, Liz??? lol

No?? I didn’t think so…

Yes, let’s have cookies! My kid that I am still supporting is coming over to get his groceries since he can’t find a job since his summer job was killed by the bad economy! I bought him some cookies!

Comment by carolynro
May 31st, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Chas: Yeah, a reporter from the Miami Herald says the mancow thing is a set up. I wish they would water board the guys who took that little girl here in Michigan last week. Two registered pedophile living in her neighborhood are suspected of kidnapping her and she hasn’t been found yet. I don’t hear anyone spending much time on things like that but they can’t shut up about 3 instances of waterboarding 3 terrorists 5 years ago! I just don’t get it when so much worse is being done by sex offenders and criminals to innocent kids all over America.

Comment by Liz
May 31st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Doesn’t really look like a fake video to me! LOL

Mancow took a lot of heat for doing that, but Oberman challenged Hannity to do it for $10,000 after he said he would do it for charity…and then he chickened out, so Mancow decided to do it for $10,000 for his charity….and he did. It sure looked real to me and Mancow has been on Fox for a long time. He used to be on Fox & Friends every day….they did a short segment with him from his radio show in Chicago.

Comment by Visitor
May 31st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Liz,

I’m laughing my a off as well. Wasn’t water boarding defined as torture some time ago?

We are having to help both of our adult children because they can’t get work or their hours have been cut so much they can’t make it. I keep running into other moms whose kids are moving home at the age of 26, 28, even over 30 years old because things are so bad here.

It is sad that a 27-year-old Michigander has so little respect for the informed viewpoints of bloggers here that are different from hers and makes the erroneous assumption that everyone who does not subscribe to her viewpoints are not intelligent or well educated. Unfortunately, thanks to Carolyn, we are reminded that Liz’s post that are so very telling. Sadly, there are so many like Liz on the U of M campus in Ann Arbor.

In her own words, Liz said “I am not from a poor family — upper middle class. My dad retired from GM and he has no worries. He’s the last of a dying breed. He was an engineer. Now those jobs are farmed out — to India, among other places in the world. If you walk around the campus at the University of Michigan you will see lots of foreigners who come here to get educated, then go home and take away American jobs.”

There are so many erroneous assumptions in that one paragraph alone. I feel sorry for her dad, who paid for her college education and is now at risk of losing HIS healthcare (not that Liz would know the details of GM bankruptcy which puts her dad’s retirement benefits in jeopardy). Those jobs are not farmed out to India or other places in the world. I do see lots of international students at the U of M who come here to be educated, many of them as doctors, engineers, scientists, IT specialists, etc. There are not enough applicants from US citizens to fill the graduate programs in these fields, not only at the U of Michigan.

I just hope they don’t have to move home. That would hard.

Two can play this game! You want to keep it up? It’s just dumb….and dull….I already know what you’re about, and I don’t agree with much of anything you say. But you already know that. I do, however, agree with some people on the blog and I like discussing things. So, if you want to take it over and choose who can and can’t post here, I suggest you take it up with the management!

Hi Rose:
Another 8700 hundred Michigan auto workers are to lose their jobs. The bleeding has to stop. I talked to a woman the other day who rents to college kids and she is losing her renters because the college kids cannot find summer work and they are leaving town. The ripple effect is incalculable.

Rose, IBM just laid off 5,000 professionals and sent their jobs to India…fact! Lots of other companies are doing the same thing…fact! I’ll post some links if you want me to.

I’ve heard that any journey starts with the first step.

chas

But Carolyn, aren’t they just useless union guys who won’t take concessions? I believe that was the latest rhetoric I’ve seen going around.

Chas; not everyone is capable of that, my friend.

Hi Rose…and how are you this fine day? lol My daughter’s hrs have been cut also, and my girlfriend is retired fr GM. I understood that those who are retired are protected? Did I miss understand that? Been busy w/weddings and other things, so have not paid close attn, actually. lol Usually do, however. lol Hubby is also in jeopardy…so, we are waiting for the great “rescue” here. Hope “they” hurry up!!! lol

OK, I’d love to chat but I’ve got to go! BTW, Obama wants to help make sure that everyone who wants a college education gets access to help. I’m sure most of you will be sorry to hear about that! More entitlements!!!

Hi Gini:

The deck project was not finished due to rain. . Oh well. And next weekend we are tied up. So close yet so far away!

Hi Chas offered cookies, not accepted by it’s okey dokey…am smilin’ now.

Gini:

I am going to my happy place. Wink, wink.

I think you are made of sterner stuff my friend.

You can at least give it a shot. If nothing else send what you want to say to me in an e-mail. Might make you feel better.

see ya then Carolyn…me too!!! ha!

Carolyn, international students come to the States on student visas which have expiry dates, and most do return to their home countries and become academic faculty, or government/industry leaders, etc, in their home countries. Some have stayed here to work, but they can do so only for up to 18 months (if they graduate with a Masters degree), provided they have a job offer for “optional practical training” (OPT), or for up to 3 years (if they graduate with a Ph.D.) for “academic training” to become researchers or university faculty. These are among the best and brightest brains — take for example Jerry Yang, one of the co-founders of Yahoo, who came to the States from Taiwan for college, and look at what he has built with his brainpower.

In recent years it has been harder for international graduates to do so, especially with the receding job market. They have to compete for the highly coveted H1-B visa (limited to something like 60,000 a year only, if I am not mistaken). Some do apply for permanent residency (“green cards”) and some eventually succeed in applying for U.S. citizenship, but the process can take something like eight years, doing it the legal way, which is the way law-abiding aspiring citizens have been applying for citizenship. It does not make any sense for these highly qualified Masters and Ph.D. graduates to become illegal immigrants, as they would not qualify for jobs in the multinational industries and academia if they did not have legal paperwork.

Carolyn, before I go I want you to watch this! There’s hope for our auto workers. They can move to the South, say the Repubican senators…..

Hi Rose,

That is my granddaughter’s middle name, Rose. It is also my daughters nickname, Rosemary, Rose for short.

She gave birth today, Haley Rose 7lb 6oz.

A happy day to be sure.

chas

Searchers found two bodies and the first confirmed debris — a briefcase containing an Air France Flight 447 ticket — in the Atlantic Ocean near where the jetliner is believed to have crashed, a Brazil military official said Saturday.

The French agency investigating the disaster, meanwhile, said airspeed instruments were not replaced as the maker recommended before the plane disappeared in turbulent weather nearly a week ago during a flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris with 228 people aboard.

All were killed, the world’s worst commercial air accident since 2001, and Air France’s deadliest plane crash.

Rose, I am not sure about the details but the husband of a friend’s sister came from Canada and it took over 8 years for him to get his citizenship legally. I am not sure I am following your train of thought. Are they being forced to become illegals by not fulfilling the qualifications and just staying here?

I have often wondered how many American citizens have been displaced in the very competative college entrance by foreign applicants. While I don’t claim to have an opinion one way or the other I am just curious.

Hi Chas and Rose,
And we celebrate the birth as well Chas. Pics, please! ha! Can’t wait to see her.
This is such a terrible accident…I sure hope they find the black box. Did I understand them to say they have thirty days, b/4 it stops transmitting? lol

It sounded more like their creds must include a PHD, for a chance at one of the applications, Carolyn? Would have to reread this interesting comment, from Rose, again. And one must be legal, to take advantage of anything available, so being an illegal citizen would not serve. To go home, is not optimum, as one’s advantages would be decreased? Better chance for their brain power in the good ol’ USA, would seem. lol

I know Gini. And it helps the world to share our best and the brightest. I know a kid from here who is at University of Cairo!

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Chas, congratulations! Everyone, do check out today’s After the Show Show video. It wasn’t available right after Alisyn signed off at 8:30 a.m. this morning, but it’s there now. Lots of good tips from Clayton about avoiding email hackers, with a lot of good-natured ribbing at Dave’s expense (his Hotmail account had been hacked). I’ve tried to post several times earlier, but they got eaten by WordPress. Hope this shortened version goes through. Gotta go get some work done … I’ve spent too much time here today.

Olinl: OK?!

There WAS an After the Show Show today after all! If you haven’t viewed it yet, it’s a good one … lots of tips from Clayton about how to avoid having your email hacked … and lots of laughs at Dave’s expense for falling prey to a hacker … but all around, it was good-natured fun.

Thanks, Alisyn, Dave and Clayton, for letting your viewers in on it

The After-the-Show Show wasn’t streaming in the minutes after Alisyn signed off at 8:30 a.m. this morning before Chris Wallace took over, and the link from the Fox and Friends page was still showing Friday’s video at that time, but the new one for today is there now!

(I tried to post this earlier but it seems that my posts were eaten up …. why, I don’t know! Anyway, I’ve kept trying to post again so that y’all won’t miss the excellent tips in today’s A.T.S.S.)

Chas — congratulations on your new granddaughter!

See you tomorrow!

WordPress has eaten my posts again … this is a test

The After-the-Show Show today is really good … lots of tips about avoiding hackers from getting a hold of your email account … check it out! I tried to post this info earlier, but my posts never showed up on the blog … so this is a shortened version.

Chas, congrats on your new granddaughter!

Gotta go … have much work to do.

Look for plenty of Purple and Gold in Omaha. LSU is on the way!!! Geaux Tigers!!!!

Congratulationn on the new grandaughter Chas. I am sure she will be a blessing. They all are. But they grow up too fast.

Gotta go and prepare for breakfast in the morning. Juan, Jose, the retired auto workers and the executives on unemployment, along with their dependents, will be here looking for a place at the table. Time to consider remodeling.

Thanks Olin. Check out my blog for the pictures.

chas

Two international space station crew members wrapped up a successful spacewalk Friday, the first since the size of the station’s crew expanded from three to six last month.

The effort, which prepared the station for the addition of a new Russian module, started more than a half-hour late after sensors registered elevated carbon dioxide readings in the Orlon-MK spacesuits worn by both spacewalkers.

High concentrations of the gas can cause dizziness, nausea and other problems, but both crew members said they felt fine and a spokesman for the Russian space agency said the problem resolved itself.

A secret society?

You’ve been told!

We’re goons for the vast right wing conspiracy and, YES, we DO have a bunker.

It’s buried deep in the Appalachian mountains of southern WV and I’ve personally stockpiled an arsenal so massive that we’ll be able to quickly and easily shoot dead on sight any and all commies that may dare to step foot on our soil for many decades to come!

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

It also a very cozy place where we can intermingle and share recipes as we plot world domination through the establishment of The Fourth Reich!

http://dogoncrack.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/the-fourth-reich/

Oh yeah, we like to eat babies too!

Fourteen-year-old chef Greg Grossman has signed a production deal to develop and star in his own reality TV show.

Grossman and New York-based Picture This Television (“Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List”) are teaming to land the professional teen chef a series.

Grossman was raised in East Hampton, N.Y., and started catering when he was 11 years old. His work has drawn media headlines and the interest of celebrity chefs.

If I may, I’d like to suggest a few things that might help make this blog a more fun and stimulating place to be. First, thank you, Liz for your apology; and thank you for accepting mine (or at least I think you have). We have discussed a great many issues in this blog. Some, like abortion, do not lend themselves to compromise. Therefore, it is unlikely that ANYONE on either side of the issue will change his or her mind as a result of any attempt/s at persuasion. Some of them hit close to home; therefore they are likely to stir emotions within some of us. I suggest if any of us reads a comment that runs contrary to what we believe is the truth, we should count to ten, swallow some Pepto Bismol (or something), and simply type into the blog what we believe to be the truth. Can we simply state our ideas without insulting someone? If we’re not careful, we can easily insult a person by insulting the IDEA. For example, it’s okay to say, “That idea is wrong.” It’s okay to say, “I believe you are mistaken.” It’s even okay to say that an idea makes you angry. It is NOT okay to say, “That idea is stupid.” It is not okay to say, “What’s wrong with you?” Do you all see what I’m saying? It’s all in the semantics. If we say an idea is “stupid” or “crazy” , we say the person who STATED the idea is “stupid” or “crazy”. Let’s all start listening to OURSELVES before we hit the “submit comment” button.

Hong Kongers ventured out unafraid Tuesday, as police searched for suspects behind a third acid attack that injured 24 people in one of the city’s most densely populated shopping districts. Nearly 100 people have been injured in the assaults so far.

The latest attack Monday night dominated headlines in Hong Kong, with several newspapers showing photos of victims washing off the acid on the roadside.

Police said a bottle filled with a corrosive liquid was hurled onto a crowd in the busy Mong Kok district, injuring 24 people. None of the victims, aged 4 to 49, were seriously burned.

Apple Inc. slashed the entry price for an iPhone in half and lowered some laptops by $300 Monday, the company’s first dramatic price cuts since the recession began a year and a half ago.

With co-founder and CEO Steve Jobs absent until his medical leave is over at the end of June, Apple’s biggest unveiling at its annual conference for software developers was a new model of the iPhone, the 3G S. It looks the same but sports a faster processor, longer battery life, an internal compass, a video camera and a photo camera with better resolution and auto-focus.

A 16-gigabyte version of the 3G S will cost $199 and a 32-gigabyte version will be $299.

Chip maker Texas Instruments Inc. raised expectations for its second-quarter profit and revenue on Monday, sending its shares higher in after-hours trading and signaling that demand may be improving for the battered semiconductor industry.

Dallas-based Texas Instruments now expects a profit in a range of 14 cents to 22 cents per share for the current quarter that runs to the end of June. Revenue is expected to be between $2.3 billion and $2.5 billion.